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#538022 - 09/15/09 11:23 PM trolling herring strip ?
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Anybody here troll small herring strips in shallow water. I read somewhere that people do that for lockjaw silvers. I like to troll orange label herring and was gonna start doing it again but that can get expensive.
The strips would only be about 3 inches. What is the proper rigging an setup? Do you just rig them like a cutplug? Searched all over the net with nothing. Just wonderin Thanx Ben


Edited by ROCKFISH (09/15/09 11:24 PM)
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#538028 - 09/15/09 11:34 PM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: ROCKFISH]
bushbear Offline
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If you can find some of the old Scotty clips, they can make a strip/filet last longer and they put a nice roll on the bait.

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#538052 - 09/16/09 12:03 AM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: bushbear]
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Does salmon University cover strips?

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#538060 - 09/16/09 12:23 AM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: fishenfool]
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Bushbear are you talking about release clips? Could not find anything on a search. salmon U was the first placed I checked.
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#538062 - 09/16/09 12:27 AM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: fishenfool]
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Registered: 05/18/05
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Rockfish,

Herring strips or filets came about in the 1940s when saving money was important and make a day's bait last longer- the spinner was devise.

Young guys call them filets or strips, but us old timers call them spinners.

First instead of buying orange label, buy black label. Three times as many spinners can be made. Next brine the herring. You can also cut them to size and salt the hell out of them.

Bevel each spinner like a cut plug for correct action.

Here's a trick my grandpa taught me as a young buck...

Tie your leader as normal excpet on the front hook tie in a heavy mono spike. Pictured below is a double hook rigged on 12# Maxima UG and the spike is 30#. When you place the herring on the hook, you first go through the flesh, out the skin, and back through the flesh. Slide the spinner up to the knot and impale the flesh with the spike and slightly pull the spinner back... Back hook dangles... The spinner does not slide down the hook.

Enjoy!



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#538071 - 09/16/09 12:43 AM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: Capt Downriggin']
bushbear Offline
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Here's a link to the "clips" I mentioned. There are other manufactuers, but they all work the basically the same. You run your leader up through the "clip". I run the upper hook right at the clip and let the back hook dangle (Kind of like FnP's set-up) just past the end of the bait.

You can run "spinners/strips" or you can put the nose of a whole herring/anchovie in the clip, too.

I agree with Captn DR suggestion to purchase larger size bait. You get more baits per dollar.

Good luck

http://www.hotspotlures.com/products_roller.php


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#538080 - 09/16/09 01:02 AM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: bushbear]
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right on fellas, great info. Gonna get this ball rollin asap
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#538147 - 09/16/09 11:26 AM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: ROCKFISH]
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Nice tip there Capt.


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#538155 - 09/16/09 12:07 PM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Registered: 12/19/03
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I fish the strip pretty regularly. And like CDR, my ol' man called it the cut spinner. I've heard it called the cheater bait because it can be very effective, especially for feeding chinook in shallow clear water. I usually fish large strips cut out of usually purple label. And rigging strips is very simple.

-Make sure your herring is good and is thoroughly brined as you would want with your cutplugs.

-Use a thin-bladed super sharp knife to cut the strip from the herring. Do not use your bleed/gut knife to tear the strip off.

-The spin of the strip is based on hook placement and the leading beveled edge (again like a cutplug)

-better to use the smallest lightest hooks possible to get the most action at the slowest speeds.

It should look about like this.



The trail hook is free to maximize the wiggle. The leading edge is beveled about 60 derees down and 45 back. The lead hook is placed skin side first, and then back through the meat side. This gives the strip an "apex lure" shape, and also keep the skin/scale side out (instead of the meat side) for maximum flash.

Good luck Ron.
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#538312 - 09/16/09 07:32 PM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: Jaydee]
goforchrome Offline
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Registered: 04/02/01
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Dr T-Hoke taught my BIL and I how to cut these.
Agree with serious brine.
Cut a filet and the finished filet with bevel should look like a necktie.
Pointed at the wide end and tapers back to a narrow tail.
Use the same leader setup Capt DR showed you.
Spins like it's in a drill motor.
Cuts and silvers can't stay off it.
Troll gravel bottom just outside the break.
It really works.
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#538358 - 09/16/09 09:27 PM Re: trolling herring strip ? [Re: goforchrome]
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Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 253
Loc: Everett, WA
Wow, I thought I knew what I was doing with strips until I saw this thread. Thanks for the great information. Really like the heavy Mono trick.
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