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#543431 - 10/05/09 04:43 PM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: NanookWillie]
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Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 1597
Loc: common sense ave.
it is a big problem but we better be carefull how we address it.

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#543435 - 10/05/09 04:52 PM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: boater]
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Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 04/15/09
Posts: 101
Loc: God's Country Oregon
Originally Posted By: boater
be carefull how we address it.


grin Now that is a stunner coming from you. cutit

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#543454 - 10/05/09 05:21 PM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: NanookWillie]
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Loc: common sense ave.
Originally Posted By: NanookWillie
Originally Posted By: boater
be carefull how we address it.


grin Now that is a stunner coming from you. cutit


ok, lets make sports selcetive fall chinook on the columbia, make the whole coast selective fall chinook and every fishery up north that has any effect on columbia river fall chinook selective and see how many hatchery chinook you`l be fishing for when they return to the columbia, do you think there will be more hatchery chinook or less hatchery chinook returning to the columbia ??

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#543765 - 10/06/09 05:31 PM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: boater]
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Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 04/15/09
Posts: 101
Loc: God's Country Oregon
No. My proposal is you can only fish for any Salmon inside the mouth of your home rivers in "poison water" where it actually takes some fishing skills and all of the "Salty Dog's" can only fish for bottom fish! All Gillnet boats must become floating roach coaches, licensed only to sell food and drink on the rivers and catch fresh water sea lions, seals and bats in their nets. rofl

That way no one impacts anyone elses Salmon in the Ocean.

umbrellacowboy stir

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#543767 - 10/06/09 05:43 PM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: NanookWillie]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3773
Ah Bow Picker fish and chips, now that's a really good idea Nanook.
Gillnet boats reconfigured as floating roach coaches, makes more sense than helping them become more efficient at catching hatchery fish.

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#543823 - 10/06/09 07:47 PM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: NanookWillie]
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BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: NanookWillie
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Lower Columbia selective fishing research


What has been done or is being done about the Canadian recreational and commercial fishery impact on Salmon returning to the Columbia River that just get hammered on all the way back home?

Just the way it is? Lost cause? Great to be them, sucks to be us? 2cents

Rick


Someday, sooner than later perhaps CCA will push to make them more selective as well. Everyone can be seine netters and we can mark 100% of our hatchery fish heading out of the Columbia.

One big problem though after that happens we'll actually get to see how few of wild fish exist in the Big C and tribs. Science is already leaning towards the complications that hatchery fish are putting on the wild fish spawning beds.....

Keith
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It's time to put the red rubber nose away, clown seasons over.


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#543841 - 10/06/09 08:42 PM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: stlhdr1]
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River Nutrients

Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7802
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
Remember, too, that it is not just Canadians or Alaskans who catch non-local fish up there.

If ALL salmonmid fisheries were limited to the stream of origin we could restore wild stocks where possible and harvest all the hatchery fish produced there.

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#543906 - 10/06/09 11:53 PM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: Carcassman]
Jake Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 06/24/00
Posts: 548
Loc: Des Moines
I got it!!!
Lets let the commercials selectively fish and only keep the wild fish, that way there will be more hatchery fish for us to attempt to get to bite. Oh, wait i forgot the problem is selective harvest, not just selective harvest but that and CCA harrasment!
All the other usual suspects can breath easy we found the culprits here.

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#543950 - 10/07/09 03:50 AM Re: Lower Columbia selective fishing research [Re: Illahee]
NanookWillie Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 04/15/09
Posts: 101
Loc: God's Country Oregon
Originally Posted By: freespool
Ah Bow Picker fish and chips, now that's a really good idea Nanook.


Hey with everyone inside they could actually make a darn good living doing that versus their seasonal hobby of raping fish with gillnets just because they are still licensed to kill everything in their path in the Columbia River.

I am not anti-commercial fishermen or native american tribal rights fishermen.

I am anti-ain't-making-a-living-with-gillnets fishermen in the Columbia River.

Selective fishing is dip netting them at the fish ladders or rod and reel only.

Define "wild" Salmon in this day and age. Steelhead is a different story.

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