#552557 - 11/05/09 09:17 AM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 03/30/02
Posts: 1409
Loc: Lake Stevens
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Both depending on water conditions. Fixed in small water for the most part and sliding everywhere else.
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#552612 - 11/05/09 01:31 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
[Re: Fast and Furious]
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Carcass
Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 2188
Loc: varies
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I asked Dave Vedder the same question a long time ago and his response made sense. With a fixed bobber you can sweep tailouts. i always run a leader, swivel, bead and egg sinker, regardless of the bobber. The water pressure will push the float back against the connection. Three foot is enough. Then you can use whatever braid mainline, etc Then you can sweep. good point!
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#552643 - 11/05/09 03:35 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
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River Nutrients
Registered: 01/17/04
Posts: 3742
Loc: Sheltona Beach
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I'm more inclined to the slider, stops above and below. Only time I use a fixed float, anymore, is along cut banks where my presentation depth is constant. Deeper than three to five feet I favor a sliding float.
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#552647 - 11/05/09 04:04 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
[Re: hybridcx]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1535
Loc: Tacoma
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Agian, Fixed for steelhead, sliding for salmon/bait. I guess I am just lazy but I usually catch more then my share with a fixed cork. Quick and easy. I fish mostly small streams though, so that is a lot of the reason behind it too.
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#552706 - 11/05/09 07:21 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
[Re: Fast and Furious]
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Spawner
Registered: 05/10/09
Posts: 779
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i personaly do not know a single person who can properly present a jig with a sliding float. noone seems to know how to balance thier setup right. getting you float and jig balanced right so you can read your float to know what your jig is doing, that is the key. i see far to many people with thier floats laying flat, either up river or down river. using to much or to little wieght for the water they are fishing, and wonder what they are doing wrong when someone who knows what they are doing walks in and catches fish out from under them.
imo it is far easier to read what your jig is doing with a fixed float, regardless of the style of float. i personaly use round cork floats for most of my float fishing. also 90% of the water i fish is 8ft or shallower, so fixed floats are all i fish.
the only time i will fish a sliding float is when i have no room behind me.
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#552708 - 11/05/09 07:33 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
[Re: BroodBuster]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 148
Loc: Washington
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Why not use both at the same time??
I use a standard sliding float rig but instead of only having a bobber stop/bead above the float I also have one below the float. If using it as a slider, which for me is about 90% of the time, I just push the lower bobber stop to about an inch above the swivle. This way if I snap off at the swivle my float doesn't go sliding off the mainline and down the river. Then if I want to use it as a fixed float, usualy for tailouts, I simply "pinch" the float from both ends and whala it's now fixed! +1, float stop knots above and below the float has saved me a few sliding floats through the years. Make your own sliding float stops, "nail knot", with a 4" piece of 20lb. or 30lb. braided Dacron or fly line backing, depending on stopper bead hole size. 20lb. preferred for sliding through the rod guides better when I have a small enough bead hole size. I use a piece of folded mono. to pull the tag through to tie the Dacron nail knot to the main line. I also like to epoxy the appropriate sized glass bead to the top of all my sliding floats. Glass beads slide easier and don't get line grooves that plastic beads will get sometimes.
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#552724 - 11/05/09 08:15 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5078
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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drifter101: Can tell you haven't fished around myself or 8 to 10 others that have prefected...bobber and jig fishing for summerrun. Believe me....we know how to balance the bobber!!! Yea we do!!!! see the following web site....just check the pictures out...I'm the old fart on opening page, well if 69 is old.....lol http://www.bradsjigs.com/
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#552744 - 11/05/09 09:36 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
[Re: DrifterWA]
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Captain C/22 - Team Stay Up Right!
Registered: 01/13/00
Posts: 4404
Loc: Hurricane Ridge , Wa.
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Went to the type of bobber stop, 20 to a pac, bright green thread, that works super. I use 20# braided line, 6 - 10# leader material, so rigging up and losing beads, weights, etc. is not a problem. Adjustment is fast!!!!!!
Was able to fish all depths ..... if close to the tail out, just shorten the leader.
Drifter, do you know what brand of bobber stops they are ?? I want some that won't move unless I move them. I fish 30 & 40 lb. PP on my float rods & get major slipping w/ the batch of stops I have. Ready to chuck them, I even put 2 on back-to-back & they still slip!! c/22
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#552747 - 11/05/09 09:43 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
[Re: chrome/22]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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I use a fixed float when fishing jigs for steelhead.
I usually use a slider when fishing bait for salmon or steelhead.
For a fixed float, I prefer the Thill Turbomaster........fished with just the jig, with one knot. Mono with musclin is my line of choice.
For sliders, I like the Thill Big Fish slider, or the West Coast foam floats. But since fishing bait doesn't require much "readability" out of the float, any old sliding float will do.
I almost never fish a jig under a slider.
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#552772 - 11/05/09 11:10 PM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
[Re: Driftfishnw]
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Alevin
Registered: 11/05/09
Posts: 10
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Sliding for me. Havent have much success running fixed
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#552792 - 11/06/09 12:45 AM
Re: Fixed float or Slinding Float
[Re: Driftfishnw]
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Spawner
Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 646
Loc: The Tailout
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Dont get me wrong, I do use sliding floats when called for, but here are a few reasons why I will use fixed over 90% of the time.
1. in smaller/shorter buckets, fixed floats will not add any drag to the line when falling into the strike zone, and thus getting there much faster.
2. shallow strikes are Instantaneous, where as with a sliding rig the float must hit the stop before there is an indication.
3. my favorite of them all.... ONE KNOT!!
The list goes on.
Tony
He's right. Another big advantage of fixed floats is that you don't have to worry about the drag from cross-currents pulling the stop off the float (and hense pulling your jig up above the fish's level). This is a huge advantage in big, fast rivers.
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