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#556842 - 11/18/09 10:13 PM Re: Rags [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
big moby Offline
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Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 2150
Loc: varies
Originally Posted By: STRIKE ZONE
I tie my rag's with 12lb ultra green leader and a 2/0 hook.I use a 5mm bead between the rag and hook.After I have the bead and head on the leader I cut it down to 26" then put on leader roll,after I tie the knot it puts ya right @ 24".When baiting up my rag where legal to do so I go over board and add a shrimp tail to the hook then use shrimp glo smelly jelly @ the bottom of the rag then douch the whole gig with pro-cure sandshrimp oil.It's all about the shrimp with the rag.When the shrimpy tail fall's off your still fishin and with all that smelly jelly and oil on it you still got bait on.Been doing this for years and have had great results.I've also after many years of using the rag have narrowed it down to just one color skeem to keep it simple,and it works in all water conditions weather murky or gin clear.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE


good info!
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#556853 - 11/18/09 11:13 PM Re: Rags [Re: What]
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Hey Man....It's cool...

Registered: 08/18/02
Posts: 4242
Loc: seattle
Huffing was one of the few things I've been easily able to quit.

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#556875 - 11/19/09 01:08 AM Re: Rags [Re: seastrike]
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Registered: 11/07/99
Posts: 2689
Loc: Yelmish
i double up a piece of mono so i get a loop about 10" long, then tie the loose ends to a snap swivel. then i take a couple dozen rags, stick a bait threader through the centers of them(like you're rigging them up), then put the end of the mono loop through the eye of the needle and pull the rags onto the loop. then take the snap and clip it on the loop, securing the rags.

if you do it right you end up with something that looks like some kind of hippy bracelet. to use, unsnap the swivel, stick the end of your leader through the loop and pull a rag onto it. sure, not as quick as having pre-tied rolls, but i hate dealing with those things(i use leader wallets). this way you don't have to have a bunch of leader rolls taking up space in your vest, and can use the rags as conditions dictate.

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#556878 - 11/19/09 03:01 AM Re: Rags [Re: Chum Man]
summerrun Offline
Dude, where's my boat?

Registered: 11/05/00
Posts: 2354
Loc: Seattle
cmon Dave, get that boat out on a real river. the sky is for rookies man, the duc and calawah await your rags n rods.
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#556879 - 11/19/09 03:13 AM Re: Rags [Re: summerrun]
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Loc: in the mass production zone
brewer has had succes with a rag, 5' leader, pink worm /spoon combo. sometimes i'll switch from the spoon and slam on a brads wiggler... no joke!
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#556894 - 11/19/09 10:19 AM Re: Rags [Re: summerrun]
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Question. I can only find the gray foam. where can a guy find the white stuff? Does it matter?
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#556899 - 11/19/09 10:47 AM Re: Rags [Re: big moby]
RognSue Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 08/14/06
Posts: 2463
Loc: edmonds
I think the site is Loghomestore.com .They have a "fishermans special"
10ft for a couple bucks + ship

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#556900 - 11/19/09 10:54 AM Re: Rags [Re: RognSue]
big moby Offline
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Originally Posted By: RognSue
I think the site is Loghomestore.com .They have a "fishermans special"
10ft for a couple bucks + ship


right on, thanks!
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#556929 - 11/19/09 01:12 PM Re: Rags [Re: big moby]
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color of backer rod makes no difference to the fish... only to fisherman. the high bouyency and contrasting colors of yarn are what makes a "rag" a visual turn on to steelhead.
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#556931 - 11/19/09 01:20 PM Re: Rags [Re: Brewer]
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Repeat Spawner

Registered: 03/26/08
Posts: 1240
Loc: The Rock
And the fact that its a little sponge of scent rolling on down the river.

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#556941 - 11/19/09 01:47 PM Re: Rags [Re: Castingpearls]
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#557136 - 11/20/09 02:26 AM Re: Rags [Re: Chum Man]
steeleywhopper Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 106
Loc: snohomish county
Originally Posted By: Chum Man
i double up a piece of mono so i get a loop about 10" long, then tie the loose ends to a snap swivel. then i take a couple dozen rags, stick a bait threader through the centers of them(like you're rigging them up), then put the end of the mono loop through the eye of the needle and pull the rags onto the loop. then take the snap and clip it on the loop, securing the rags.

if you do it right you end up with something that looks like some kind of hippy bracelet. to use, unsnap the swivel, stick the end of your leader through the loop and pull a rag onto it. sure, not as quick as having pre-tied rolls, but i hate dealing with those things(i use leader wallets). this way you don't have to have a bunch of leader rolls taking up space in your vest, and can use the rags as conditions dictate.

This is a great Idea, and you get to look like a hippie!

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#557432 - 11/21/09 12:59 AM Re: Rags [Re: steeleywhopper]
riverdick Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 05/10/09
Posts: 138
Loc: around the next bend
Last time I looked like a hippy, I got detained by border patrol!!!

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#557777 - 11/22/09 02:15 PM Re: Rags [Re: riverdick]
DrifterWA Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5018
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
Howdy:

Sold many 100's of "Sloth's/Rags" in my area.....following pic's shows my materials and finished product...will try to explain my building process....

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1. Left side....went to Boeing Surplux, found this "pink insulation 1 1/2" thick. Used a .270 casing to push though and cut the "round float material". Once "cut" they could be divided in half's or thirds.

2. Used 2/0 hooks, 12# leader....would start with leader 32-35" long.

3. Assembly....with hook and leader tied....

a. bead
b. sequin(added strength, so sloth/rag doesn't slide down on hook)
c. BODY---insulation material, with 3 or 4 colors of yawn....I use a large sewing needle to push the yarn thur insulation material.
d. sequin on top, strength and color.

Slough's/Rags work good by themselves, adding smell or bait just makes them better.

Good luck!!!!!!!!!




Edited by DrifterWA (11/22/09 02:16 PM)
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#557822 - 11/22/09 05:30 PM Re: Rags [Re: DrifterWA]
Captain Offline
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Registered: 10/16/99
Posts: 318
Loc: Enumclaw, Washington, USA
Thanks DrifterWA you are mountain of knowledge!

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#557857 - 11/22/09 08:38 PM Re: Rags [Re: Captain]
ParaLeaks Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
What do you use to cut the insulation into nice round chunks? OOOPS...I didn't get the .270 casing the first time I read it....very good!


Edited by Slab Happy (11/22/09 08:39 PM)
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#557858 - 11/22/09 08:41 PM Re: Rags [Re: Captain]
ClearCreek Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 149
Loc: Mtn. west
Captian -

DrifterWA has some good info in his post. Here is my variation:

1. Instead of a 270 brass I use a 50 S&W brass - it will cut out the rag body about 1/2 inch in diameter.

2. I buy "pool noodles" and cut them into 1 inch think "steaks" (not sure how else to describe it) and then cut the rag bodies with the 50 S&W brass. You can get a variety of colors using pool noodles (and if you can find them at a dollar store they are cheap and you can get a ton of rag bodies from each noodle).

3. Then add the yarn with a big needle.

4. Get some Q-tips with the hollow plastic "handles" and take the cotton off the ends. Take an ice pick and push it through the rag body lengthwise. Then put the hollow plastic Q-tip over the pointed end of the ice pick and as you withdraw the ice pick push the hollow plastic tube through the rag body. Cut to length and you can string the rags on your leader much more easily.

I hope I have explained this well enough so you can understand it.

ClearCreek

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#557894 - 11/22/09 10:10 PM Re: Rags [Re: ClearCreek]
Satan Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 1821
Loc: Around the way
Drifter WA I love that foam material. Is it available online?

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#557932 - 11/23/09 12:14 AM Re: Rags [Re: Satan]
DrifterWA Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5018
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
Avid angler.......I only found that at the Boeing Surplus store, now that is closed.......so I can't be of any help.....sorry
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