#570636 - 01/09/10 12:50 AM
Re: Some old hatchery info ...
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River Nutrients
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another old memory is that WDG put CWTs in steelhead in the late 70s, early 80s. At that time, CWTs came with an ad-clip. Also, BC F&W CWT'd their steelhead so that is another source of clipped fish back then.
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#570655 - 01/09/10 02:05 AM
Re: Some old hatchery info ...
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
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OMG - After that trip down memory lane I'm really starting to sound like an "ole fart" longing for the "good ole days".
Tight lines Curt
Or a Rivrguy wannabe? 
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#570678 - 01/09/10 09:31 AM
Re: Some old hatchery info ...
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River Nutrients
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Loc: Marysville
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Carcassman - I too recall that the coded wire tags (CWTs) were used then and that the adipose fin clip was sequestered for only those fish with the CWTs., In fact it took a couple of years effort to get the approval (from PFMC) to use the adipose fin clip for mass marking rather than for CWTs. That delayed the mass marking of PS steelhead a couple of years.
GBL - Another thing that was going on during the 1970s was the rapid increase in the fisheries off the west coast of Vancouver Island. By the late 1970s those fisheries were taking huge numbers of Puget Sound coho (and Chinook).
I agree that such fry programs are excellent "feel good" programs that have some educational value. In addition those wild brood stock programs were great fun; especially when those involved got to fish closed waters. In fact about the only time that support for that type of program waned was when those "experimental" programs became the "norm" and the expected production (returning adults) were included in management - forecasts, # of harvestable fish, etc. The result of course was that terminal fisheries and even worst the escapements relied on those "paper fish". That of course fosters continued over-fishing/under escaements.
Tight lines Curt
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#570719 - 01/09/10 02:12 PM
Re: Some old hatchery info ...
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Dick Nipples
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Hatchery programs of most any sort tend to have a quick and measurable increase in available fish, but tend to be self-limiting, and when the program by its own characteristics start to limit its production, everyone involved looks for an outside problem to blame it on...when the problem is usually the program itself.
That's why the "if we only planted ten times as many smolts, we'd have ten times as many fish!" argument virtually never works...ever.
Fish on...
Todd
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