Reminds me of the beer and pizza diet, easy to sell but not a whole lot of science/math behind it..

No one is claiming we won't get our time on the water... But who really wants to fish behind the purse seine curtains of death?

Keith

sometimes i think you live in another state because your way off base with what you think is going on in fisheries related issues in this state.

more bad news for sportfisherman

http://www.cbbulletin.com/402551.aspx

Wow..........

13 guys fished 30 total days for 21,000 fish handled... The catch included 10,800 chinook, 8,100 coho and 2,100 steelhead.

As expected, the total of 13,100 salmon and steelhead were caught with purse seines and 7,900 with beach seines. The trap nets were generally ineffective with a total of 39 fish captured for the season, including 10 chinook, 26 coho and three steelhead.

That's flat getting the job done, turn the entire fleet over and you could call it a "mop-up" fishery.....

Keith

Oregon's newly elected Governor favors the SAFE For Salmon Plan.

Great news!

But it should be tempered with this observation from one of the posted comments on that site.

I'd be very surprised if the purse seines don't turn out to have a considerably lower release mortality rate than most other gear types, especially gillnets...but there is absolutely no comparison between a purse seine in the upper watershed in virtually dead water capturing Chinook that have been freshwater hardened for months, and catching/releasing ocean fresh spring Chinook and steelhead in the lower Columbia River, which will likely have a far, far higher capture/release mortality than that cited in the CBB.

That guy sounds pretty smart

Fish on...

Todd

I'm not to excited, of the 17000 caught less than half would have been marketable..50% mark rate..

Mortality %'s will drop which is great!!

Sacraficing hatchery fish from the lower river, well that sucks assuming someday they cut the whole fleet loose!

Keith

What I got from the numbers is the states paid about 5million to go out and catch about 100000 dollars worth of fish, 4 more years of testing to go!

The objectives for the 2010 feasibility study were to:



-- test deployment and operation of three different gear types (Purse Seine, Beach Seine and Trap Net);

-- directly estimate short-term (24-48 hours) species-specific mortality rates resulting from capture for each gear type, and

-- directly estimate and compare species-specific catch per unit effort for each gear type.



Researchers failed to accomplish the short-term mortality assessment goal because of the intervention of otters, sea lions and seals. Some of the captured fish were to be kept in in-stream net pens for 24 to 48 hours to see how they fared after their netting. But the pens were regularly plundered by the predators.



“We really don’t have enough data to make an estimate” of short-term mortality, Kinne said.

Anyone who thinks that going selective with commercial gear is going to do anything bad to sports fishing is a fool. Think of how good fishing will be without the killer gillnets.

saltchucker, I think you're missing a very large part of the conversation by assuming that fishing will be good just by getting rid of gillnets.

Fish on...

Todd

how can this not lead to poorer sport fishing ?, care to explain ??

It's not the mortality rate thats going to be the issue here, the mark rate is going to become front and center. What happens when you have 2 fisherys trying to mark select fish, the report Henry Yuon (sp) gave to PFMC touched on it..

didnt think you could explain that

That's exciting but scary news... SOMEDAY, they'll mark 100% of hatchery fish and count what true native salmon #'s we have at the dam. Sad thing is, it's really not a road we want to go down if we want to keep fishing a bunch...

Keith

Well whats stopping them.. Tribes?