#652822 - 01/11/11 01:36 AM
smoked salmon/steelhead
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 06/10/09
Posts: 143
Loc: Grays Harbor WA
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I was lookin back in the threads and having a hard time finding a variety of recipes to try.The first batch I smoked turned out ok but I wanna try something different with the next batch. I have King, Silver, and a few jacks left to do. Any suggestions?
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#652867 - 01/11/11 10:39 AM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: fishEmunchR]
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Carcass
Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 2150
Loc: varies
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1/4 cup of each for every Qt. of water:
brown sugar non-iodized salt white sugar soy sauce
brine overnight, rinse, lay out for an hour, smoke 3 pans of alder or apple. keep on racks until done.
simple but tasty.
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#652871 - 01/11/11 10:58 AM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: big moby]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5030
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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Been using the following for 40+ years
1 quart of water
2/3 cup of sugar------white OR brown, both are good but prefer brown
1/2 cup of salt, as I've gotten older, I've backed off the salt.....
3 Tablespoons of Seafood seasoning....or Seasoning Salt
1 Tablespoon of garlic power
Marinate 8 -12 hours
rinse
Let glaze over(air dry) for a couple of hours....a fan can be helpful here
smoke, I prefer alder....how long depends on the temperture, and wind......older I get, the "more moist" I like it....start checking at 4 hours(taste test) can always finish in oven.....JUST DON'T OVER COOK.....ugh, ugh, ugh
Good luck........it's all good, some just better than others!!!!!!
Edited by DrifterWA (01/11/11 11:02 AM)
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#652873 - 01/11/11 11:10 AM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: DrifterWA]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/22/10
Posts: 433
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2/3 yoshida 1/3 soy Add brown or white sugar to taste (prefer brown) Sprinkle garlic salt/powder on fish prior to marinading
Marinade overnight.
I bake my fish for about 20-25 min at 275 degrees. This way it's almost cooked prior to smoking. Line your pan with aluminuminum foil so you don't bake all that sugar onto it. Pain the arse to clean.
Immediately put in smoker for about 3 trays of chips. Only takes about 3 hours in the smoker.
Comes out moist and nicely smoked. Will last almost 2 weeks refrigerated. If you need to keep it longer pack and freeze.
Simple, Fast and tastes great.
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#652883 - 01/11/11 12:01 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: metaladdiction]
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Spawner
Registered: 12/20/10
Posts: 950
Loc: the moon
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1 part pickling salt 2 parts brown sugar brine 2 days
let air dry an hour on racks an hour or two before finished smoking, glaze with a honey/brown sugar/mapeline/lemon juice mixture. Then pepper (alot).
I throw it in the oven at 170 for the last couple hours. be sure there's something to catch juice if you put it in the oven.
MUST VACUUM PACK!! I like to over cook it, than freeze it for a month after it's smoked. it gets more flavor, and tenderizes. This also helps if you use too much salt.
p.s. there's no right way to smoke dark fish. If your meat aint orange/red when it goes in the brine, it'll never turn out great.
Edited by Jgrizzle (01/11/11 05:24 PM)
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#652884 - 01/11/11 12:10 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: DrifterWA]
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7084
Loc: Everett
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as I've gotten older, I've backed off the salt.....
Agreed! In my receipe posted above, you use less salt but brine longer to achieve the same amount of denaturalization of the proteins and water extraction. The result is a sweeter smoked fish with the use of less salt. Sugars are hydrophilic, so a longer brine bath with less salt & more sugar will also result in a moister end product. Any brine receipe can be tweaked like this by reducing the salt and adding to brining time.
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#652888 - 01/11/11 12:26 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: Sky-Guy]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2533
Loc: Elma
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Amen. I have pretty much reduced it down to just pinches of sea salt for whatever recipe I am using.
I have found I can only eat one piece of overly-salty smoked fish, but can basically eat pounds of less salty fish in one sitting.
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#652918 - 01/11/11 02:38 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: McMahon]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/03/06
Posts: 241
Loc: Wa
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Doesnt anyone use a dry brine?
I have used them all and get more consistent casing with dry. Use whatever brine you like and dont add water
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#652945 - 01/11/11 03:59 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: Slab]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 08/14/06
Posts: 2463
Loc: edmonds
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Doesnt anyone use a dry brine?
I have used them all and get more consistent casing with dry. Use whatever brine you like and dont add water Dry brine for the last 20 yrs Brown sugar Rocksalt Super (not so) Secret spice pat on heavy, leave for 12 hrs, dust off remaining salt w/ paper towel Good to go... Comes out looking like this... 
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#653016 - 01/11/11 06:51 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: RognSue]
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 01/05/07
Posts: 1551
Loc: Bremerton, Wa.
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I do the simple dry brine with a few spices as well, always rinse well to get rid of the heavy salt, drain, place on rack to dry and sprinkle with lemon pepper.........good stuff
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#653070 - 01/11/11 09:05 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: N W Panhandler]
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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Dry for me. Only for 40 years though.
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#653081 - 01/11/11 09:21 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: Dave Vedder]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 11/21/09
Posts: 134
Loc: south whidbey
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I have used a dry brine but have gone back to a simple wet brine 1 gal HOT water 1 1/2 cups kosher canning salt 1 cup brown sugar juice of one lemon (you can use the bottled stuff) 1 large onion, chopped fine 4 large tblsp of minced garlic mix well Put the fish skin up in the brine and into the fridge from 4-6 hrs remove and pat dry air dry for 3-6 hrs depending on air temp. optional; marinate in soy sauce for 1/2 hr,pat dry optional; lightly coat with brown sugar or rub of your choice always smoke with Alder to the way you like it. Also, i have always had better luck with the bellies and thinner filets really thick slabs don't ever seem to come out the way I like
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#653178 - 01/11/11 11:30 PM
Re: smoked salmon/steelhead
[Re: mutinyman]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6222
Loc: zipper
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4 cups dark brown sugar 1 cup salt fresh pressed garlic if you like black pepper no need to oversalt, just leave it in longer. works for me
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