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#656193 - 01/20/11 09:31 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: MPM]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
It's better to offer them good press...if they are willing to earn it.

Fish on...

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#656253 - 01/21/11 01:50 AM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: ROE-ME]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3164
9 pages and you still think they are on the wrong side of the issue?

ready-fire-aim

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#717617 - 11/11/11 09:49 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Driftfishnw]
IrishRogue Offline
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Registered: 08/08/06
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Loc: Yarrow Point
Just following up on this thread from much earlier in the year...

The chef I talked to (Peter Birk) is moving to a new restaurant.

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/2011/11/harborside-restaurant-lands-rays-chef.html

IMPORTANT to note that the Monterey Bay Aquarium Seafood Watch list is at least seemingly a very important place to get listed... Right now Steelhead is not even its own category, and I am wondering what org (WSA?) should begin lobbying them?
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#717645 - 11/11/11 10:48 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: IrishRogue]
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Registered: 03/05/99
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Been some discussions on that with them, and because the region that is fished is so small ... they're not sure if they want to start the ball rolling with it. But I know that some groups are interested in pursuing the matter further if aggressive schedule remain in place.
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#718149 - 11/14/11 07:49 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Brant]
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Registered: 10/25/11
Posts: 6
Loc: Eastern Washington
Yoke's in Spokane is advertising on billboards...."Fresh Columbia River Wild Steelhead." I email the store manager, trying to educate him about how valuable these fish are to the people who shop at his store. He did not find my comments kindly. He says he has visited the "Wild steelhead farms" lol. I think alot of it is mis=advertising, but at any rate, should we take kindly to them teaching the less informed nonfisherman that this is ok?

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#718163 - 11/14/11 08:24 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Slime Rocket]
Kingflounder Offline
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 90
Loc: It's uncanny, I'm here too.

Bob,

I'm a bit slow on the uptake, but only realized this post about the chef moving is just an add-on to many January 2011 posts. I think an update on Ray's current menu and their ultimate response to the much earlier issue is only fair. Tis a long time since original discussions and in some sense defeats the purpose of the original contact with Rays Boathouse.

FYI, I have no relationship with them.

What say you. I strongly agree with MPM post of January 20, 2011.

King


Edited by Kingflounder (11/14/11 08:26 PM)
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#718181 - 11/14/11 09:00 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Slime Rocket]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
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Originally Posted By: Slime Rocket
Yoke's in Spokane is advertising on billboards...."Fresh Columbia River Wild Steelhead." I email the store manager, trying to educate him about how valuable these fish are to the people who shop at his store. He did not find my comments kindly. He says he has visited the "Wild steelhead farms" lol. I think alot of it is mis=advertising, but at any rate, should we take kindly to them teaching the less informed nonfisherman that this is ok?


Yoke's in Pasco is also advertizing wild steelhead.
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#718209 - 11/14/11 10:27 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Dave Vedder]
Kingflounder Offline
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 90
Loc: It's uncanny, I'm here too.


Looked at the Yokes website tonight and under their Spokane market specials, they state that their Steelhead are 'farm raised'. Haven't checked the other store adds.

King
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#718210 - 11/14/11 10:30 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Kingflounder]
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Registered: 10/19/09
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I'm sure Pacific Seafoods is thanking you all for the free advertising.
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#718215 - 11/14/11 10:57 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: SBD]
Kingflounder Offline
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Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 90
Loc: It's uncanny, I'm here too.

I'm not particularly fond of Pacific Seafoods, but I believe the issue is
Wild vs. Farm Raised seafood. Might as well stick to the issue. I thought farm raised protects wild, net caught, and by catch sales...so must ask...

What are you talking about and what does it have to do with the issue at hand?

King
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#718218 - 11/14/11 11:29 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Kingflounder]
SBD Offline
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Registered: 10/19/09
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Loc: Water
http://www.dfw.state.or.us/fish/OSCRP/CRM/CAN/11/111006notice.pdf


Last Tribal fisherie was over a month ago so if it's fresh it didn't come from there. That would only leave some Tribal Hatchery surplus which could be labeled and sold as Wild or my guess it's just mislabeled Pacific Sfds farmed fish out of the upper Columbia.



http://www.fpc.org/currentdaily/HistFishTwo_7day-ytd_Adults.htm


Run is also just a trickle now, not enough to supply to chain store with a steady supply.


Edited by SBD (11/14/11 11:33 PM)
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#718233 - 11/15/11 12:20 AM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: SBD]
Kingflounder Offline
Smolt

Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 90
Loc: It's uncanny, I'm here too.

You are looking at the Oregon fish and game site.

Tribal fishing continues here in WA as described below.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/tribal/#graysharbor

You are still off issue, although I agree that the fish may be misrepresented as fresh and wild. They are now represented as fresh farm raised. What say you?

King
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#718235 - 11/15/11 12:33 AM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Kingflounder]
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Registered: 10/19/09
Posts: 3743
Loc: Water
"Fresh Columbia River Wild Steelhead."



Guess I was reading this phrase and as far as Columbia River it's managed jointly so info posted on ODFW site is valid for both states. beer
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#718238 - 11/15/11 12:47 AM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: SBD]
Kingflounder Offline
Smolt

Registered: 01/19/11
Posts: 90
Loc: It's uncanny, I'm here too.

Now we talkin. Have a good evening.

King
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#718387 - 11/15/11 06:31 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Kingflounder]
206jb Offline
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Registered: 06/10/10
Posts: 85
Loc: port of seattle
I called the Rays in ballard and the gal that answered the phone said there's no wild steelhead on the menu but should be soon....oh by the way, since when are the natives allowed to net inside of ONP, they were on Sunday.

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#718404 - 11/15/11 07:45 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: 206jb]
Brant Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/09/03
Posts: 399
Loc: Seattle
Not aware of natives netting in the park. I spoke with the rangers at the Queets on Sunday. They said the hatchery had brood stock guys placing nets and researchers netting and releasing fish for some reason. If we were at the same place that might have been what you saw.

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#718671 - 11/16/11 06:59 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: Brant]
gregsalmon Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/11/08
Posts: 534
Loc: alaska and washington
I went to Rays facebook page and asked this question. Do you provide wild steelhead and if so where are they harvested?


They have been netting the Queets inside the park as long as I can remember.

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#718693 - 11/16/11 08:27 PM Re: Rays Boathouse wild steelhead [Re: gregsalmon]
gregsalmon Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/11/08
Posts: 534
Loc: alaska and washington
Ray's Boathouse, Cafe & Catering Hi Greg, Ray's does not serve steelhead so we do not have any information about where they are being harvested

That was thier reply to my post on thier facebook wall. Wonder which is correct. Interesting in one of thier photos you can see commercial fishing going on in the back ground from Rays.

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