One of my friends was at the house a year or so ago, and asked if tehre was any legislation that I would like to be brought up. he's a rep her on the coast.

I told him about the fact that suppressors (silencers) were legal to own in Washington, but that through some sort of misguided reasoning, their use was not legal. I said it would be nice to be able to not only own, but to be able to use them as well. Currently owners of them need to travel to Oregon or Idaho to use them.

Brian ran the bill through the house, and it sailed through pretty easily, getting a vote of 88 to 4 to pass it. The companion bill was run through the senate, and after seeing the results in the house, it passed the senate judiciary today. Looks like it will head to the floor for a vote in the near future. This will mean that 90 days after eth session ends, firing ranges will get quieter. At least some will.

Brian is also running bills for cougar hunting with hounds, plus various trapping bills that will once again allow folks to trap moles with pincer traps, legally.

Wow. Go Brian

Good job DF...sounds like some "logical" legislation coming up!

Dogfish, hit him up to get bear baiting back. Possibly by permit if nothing else. Love the suppressor issue. Was looking into getting one for my .223 for predator hunting but couldn't find anything in the hunting regs about using one so I kind of gave up.

I'll ask Brian if he thinks he could make a run at bear baiting next session. Call your rep as well.

I would love--LOVE-- to be able to slap a Krinkov can on to the end of my AK.

And everything else I own with a threaded muzzle.

Good job Andy!

I'll buy you a half rack just for that one act of awesomeness.



Toys & Candy:
http://redjacketfirearms.com/suppressors/suppressors.html

PS- The legislators I know are total weenies. They'd never sponsor a bill like that. Props.

Better yet ask him to reopen season and bounty on seals and lions. That would be almost as much fun as long range coyotes

Would it be too much to ask for full auto ?
Three shot burst ?

Sweet!

NFA (full auto) is GTG as long as you owned them prior to 1994.

It would be a stretch to get NFA firearms, plus short barreled rifles (under 16") and SB shotguns (under 18") legalized in today's environment.

This is merely a clean-up bill that brings Washington law into line with Federal law.

I just wan't a couple cans......

Jeebus Christ, what is that thing? That's quite the weapon there....

Keith

10# crap on a 5# box. A little bit much for CQB, but still cool!!!

Legend of the Mall Ninga

Just a little Picatinny (rail) gone wild
It would be fun to point that beast at a caught-red-handed tweaker

Sol Duc, it looks like you already have a couple of cans judging by your avatar. LOL

That Mall Ninja Deluxe just needs a hood ornament and a pair of fuzzy dice.

Someone asked for the progress of the issue, so here you go. This is the straight scoop right from the two folks running the bills through the house and senate.

Hi Senator Hatfield,

I had spoken with Brian Blake about running HB 1016 prior to the beginning of the session. Brian is a friend of mine, but I live in Senator Sheldon’s district, in McCleary.

I see where Brian’s bill had made its way through the house and was passed a few weeks back. I know Brian had asked you to run the companion bill and that it has made its way through the judiciary committee, but is currently stalled in the rules committee. Do you anticipate the bill making it out of the rules committee, and if not, is there anything that I can do to assist the bill?

Just wondering what the next step in the process is for this item.

Many thanks,

Dogfish

Hatfields response


Both bills are alive and well. I would certainly prefer the using Blake’s bill, over mine, as it is now WAY ahead of the process. Hopefully, it will be one of the first House bills heard by the Senate Judiciary Committee, when we start hearing bills from the opposite house….
Blake's response

What he said…..

SB 5112 has moved out of the rules committee to the floor for another reading, which is VERY good.

...and while we weren't looking HB 1016 has been scheduled for its first public hearing on March 9th in the senate!

Moving forward.

Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast. Soon we will be much quieter.

Redd----As long as the flash hider is permantlty (sp?) attached for an overall minimum length of 16" your OK.

If the barrel is 16" in total length "with a permanently attached" (pinned and/or welded) you should be good to go. I would suggest you verify this yourself and not just take my word on it.

I'm assuming that you are buying an AR (10 or 15) type rifle with a 14.5" barrel, and that it has an IZZY or other type of flash hider permanently attached to the barrel. Most likely the rifle would have a disclaimer of "All NFA rules apply" if the barrel length is less than 16" and the flash hider was easily removable.

You would also need to meet the minimum .24 caliber requirement for Washington. 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel are two pretty good all around calibers for deer. We have taken a bunch of deer with the 6.8 SPC. 2800 FPS with a 95 grain bullet, 2400 FPS with a 130gr bullet. Very accurate.

Rifles with barrel lengths under 16 inches are considered NFA items and are called "short barreled rifles" (SBR's). SBR's are regulated by the BATFE, and you would need to complete a form 3 (to buy a completed SBR) or a form 1 (to build one yourself), then send in your application, passport photos, CLEO sign off, or trust documentation, along with a $200 check to the BATFE where you get to wait for 60-120 days while they go through your background and finally approve you. After approval, and only after approval, can you then assemble or take possession of the SBR.

One tricky issue here in Washington. SBR's aren't legal to own, possess, or use. That is an issue we'll take up next year.

Again, don't take my word as the gospel. Research it yourself, because screwing up and getting arrested for an NFA violation means Federal charges, and Federal prison.

What are you getting?