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#686013 - 06/01/11 10:14 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Maybe the younger generation will live to be 120.....who knows? Not what the world needs, for sure, but it may be possible on a large scale. When I was younger I ate WHAT I wanted, drank WHAT I wanted, did WHAT I wanted.......with no discernable lasting effects. At about age 40, some things my mind said were no problem, my body declared otherwise ..... and it wasn't well received by me. The progress of age and years of physical abuse is catching up now, more than a couple of decades later. I'm still bull-headed and want what I want when I want it, but the price tag is higher. I have few regrets and am not yet willing to accept that my ancestor's scratched their way up through the evolutionary tree to eat bushes. And I refuse to live in a world that I'm afraid of......so......it may not be "Balls to the Wall" any more, but it's as close as I can make it. smile And hopefully will remain so until they pat me in the face with a shovel.
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#686016 - 06/01/11 10:36 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: ParaLeaks]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
It's all soooo simple really!!!


Tips for healthy living from a true professional.



Q: Doctor, I've heard that cardiovascular exercise can prolong life. Is this true?

A: Your heart only good for so many beats, and that it... Don't waste on exercise. Everything wear out eventually.. Speeding up heart not make you live longer; it like saying you extend life of car by driving faster. Want to live longer? Take nap.

Q: Should I reduce my alcohol intake?
A: No, not at all. Wine made from fruit. Brandy is distilled wine, that mean they take water out of fruity bit so you get even more of goodness that way. Beer also made of grain. Bottom up!

Q: How can I calculate my body/fat ratio?
A: Well, if you have body and you have fat, your ratio one to one. If you have two bodies, your ratio two to one, etc.

Q: What are some of the advantages of participating in a regular exercise program?
A: Can't think of single one, sorry. My philosophy is: No pain...good!

Q: Aren't fried foods bad for you?
A: YOU NO LISTEN! Food are fried these day in vegetable oil. In fact, they permeated by it. How could getting more vegetable be bad for you?!?

Q: Will sit-ups help prevent me from getting a little soft around the middle?
A: Definitely not! When you exercise muscle, it get bigger. You should only be doing sit-up if you want bigger stomach.

Q: Is chocolate bad for me?
A: Are you crazy?!? HEL-LO-O!! Cocoa bean! Another vegetable! It best feel-good food around!

Q: Is swimming good for your figure?
A: If swimming good for your figure, explain whale to me..

Q: Is getting in shape important for my lifestyle?
A: Hey! 'Round' is shape!


Well... I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions you may have had about food and diets.

And remember:

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "YEE-HAW, what a ride!!"

AND.....

For those of you who watch what you eat, here's the final word on nutrition and health. It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting nutritional studies.

1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.


CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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#686022 - 06/01/11 11:40 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Dave Vedder]
BroodBuster Offline
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Registered: 07/11/04
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Loc: Bothell, Wa
I like what Dave says..............

The simple fact is that healthy living is determined more by wealth and time then anything else.

Give me a ranch to grow my own beef, paultry and vegi's and I'll be a hell of a lot healthier then my alarm going off at 3:00 am and sitting in a high stress cubicle till 2:00 pm 5 days a week.

I retire in 12 years at 55 and I'll live till I'm 80.

I retire in 22 years at 65 and I'll live till I'm 66.

And it don't matter a wee bit what I eat or drink till then smile
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#686023 - 06/01/11 11:42 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Aunty, you reinforce Your excuse to over eat and blame it on anything but calories.

You need to aware yourself that your body burns a set amount of calories everyday and it is determined by a combination of body composition, metabolic rate, and energy physically expended based off your activity or lack of. Your body will never be able to escape from this reality even though your mind has. I highly suggest you find out what a calorie is before posting up more non-sense that panders to the no-self control crowd.

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#686100 - 06/01/11 06:01 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: ]
Castingpearls Offline
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Registered: 03/26/08
Posts: 1257
Loc: The Rock
I try to limit sugar, I fail to limit carbs (bread is a huge weakness), get plenty of protein, and stay active.

Running, soccer, basketball, golf....yeah golf is a workout when you're as bad as I am.

I was doing P90X until a shoulder injury knocked me down.

My diet sucks but I make up for it in exercise.

I can't go more than a day or two without some sort of working out/training.

Going to sign up for a half marathon at the end of summer to keep me motivated.

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#686101 - 06/01/11 06:02 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Castingpearls]
Castingpearls Offline
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Registered: 03/26/08
Posts: 1257
Loc: The Rock
Oh, and I don't know if this was already said above but meth works wonders for your spare tire.

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#686121 - 06/01/11 07:50 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: ]
Rocket Red Offline
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Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2540
Loc: Elma
I put in some suspension trainers in my prison garage gym yesterday. Those are great. I just made them out of motorcylce straps and some pvc.

I figure a suspended pushup is about 2x as hard as a regular one a suspended dip is about 3x as hard as a regular one.
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#686185 - 06/02/11 12:37 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Dave Vedder]
Doctor Rick Offline
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Registered: 01/06/10
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Loc: Sequim
Great stuff!!
And most people die in bed so sleep is absolutely a bad idea!

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#686187 - 06/02/11 12:47 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: HOOKUP]
Doctor Rick Offline
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Originally Posted By: HOOKUP
Cutting carbs is calorie cutting for dummies...so easy even a dr. can do it.

Learning how to eat a balanced meal and hitting your daily macronutrients based on your individual goals is what smart people do.

Revised comment to not include obese or non-obese diabetics. Just average people skinny to fat...

You diabetics get your own forum, were all normal here


Hey Hookup,

How about you help me improve my fishing or teach me about your field of expertise and I can coach you in physiology? Sure, I'm being a wise guy but we can all learn from each other.

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#686204 - 06/02/11 02:10 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Dan S.]
Doctor Rick Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
I'm a type 1 diabetic......for the last 40 years.


Dan, not sure where you are going with this but the type 1 treatment in the 1920s was total carb restriction and extreme calorie restriction, and it worked to slow (not stop) the destruction the disease caused. Once George Banting "discovered" insulin it was huge. There is a story in "The Discovery of Insulin" by Bliss about Banting's patients waiting for his return from a meeting to learn whether there would be enough insulin for them. It will absolutely rip your heart out to read it. In this era where insulin is widely available, it is different, but to read it you go back in time to the immediacy of their experience and it is very enlightening, as I am sure you understand.

In 2011, if there is a problem with diabetes, then the best information I have is that a reduced carbohydrate diet helps, doesn't fix but helps. Works best with DM2, less so with DM1 but still helps.

The biggest problem with insulin is that almost everybody who uses it gains weight over the years which makes the weight gain worse, and the insulin requirement grows.

The common path is to cut the carbs. No downside except missing cake. YMMV.

P.S. Thanks for the use of the lighter!




Edited by Doctor Rick (06/02/11 02:24 AM)

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#686208 - 06/02/11 02:29 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Doctor Rick]
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Registered: 03/27/05
Posts: 1552
Loc: Kona, Hawaii
Eat less. Move more.
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#686218 - 06/02/11 03:41 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Mingo]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4358
Loc: South Sound
I'm waaay late getting in on this thread, buuut--

Salmon & avocado.


Recipe for win.

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#686232 - 06/02/11 10:42 AM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: ]
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Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I'd rather die than give up a nice piece of cake from time to time.

smile

What I really want is an islet transplant so I can eat cake whenever I have a hankering. Let me know if anyone finds any islets just hanging around.
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#686256 - 06/02/11 01:19 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Dan S.]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13523
I try to eat right - almost. I like food too much and was born with a sweet tooth. The older I get, the more my metabolism slows, and I've gradually gained weight. My 86 year old mother is diabetic, so I'm slightly concerned I might be susceptible to it and will have to leave the cookies out of my lunch. If it ever stops raining, I'll get back on my bike and see if I can't hit my fitness target this summer.

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#686258 - 06/02/11 01:29 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Salmo g.]
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I have been working out like a madman this past month. feel better than I have in years. lost 10lbs as well. My biggest issue is beer drinking.... beathead I know the weight would fly off if I scaled back on the old brewnansky's. what is the fun in that??
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#686259 - 06/02/11 01:53 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Salmo g.]
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Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2540
Loc: Elma
I just heard today that the Food Pyramid we grew up looking at has been replaced by the USDA's new "MyPlate"



It is much better than the pyramid, although the government is generally 20 years behind science in most cases. Still, it gives fruit and vegetables half the plate, which is a big improvement.

I was listening to NPR and they interviewed spokespeople for each industry. Because they are exactly who we should get our nutrition parameters from.
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#686261 - 06/02/11 01:57 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: big moby]
Rocket Red Offline
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Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2540
Loc: Elma
Originally Posted By: big moby
I have been working out like a madman this past month. feel better than I have in years. lost 10lbs as well. My biggest issue is beer drinking.... beathead I know the weight would fly off if I scaled back on the old brewnansky's. what is the fun in that??


When I stopped eating bread (for the most part), I pretty much gave up beer too (not because I wanted to). I can barely drink 2 in an evening, I just get full too fast on them. I still love beer, I just can't get too much of it down without feeling off. The difference is amazing. I switched over to CR on the rocks for social events.
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#686270 - 06/02/11 02:21 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Rocket Red]
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good idea. The diet is my next focus. I figure a change for the better plus cutting out the beer (except for social events) will help big time.

It is amazing how excercise can make you feel so much better, both physically as well as mentally.
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#686280 - 06/02/11 03:04 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: Rocket Red]
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Originally Posted By: Rocket Red
I just heard today that the Food Pyramid we grew up looking at has been replaced by the USDA's new "MyPlate"



It is much better than the pyramid, although the government is generally 20 years behind science in most cases. Still, it gives fruit and vegetables half the plate, which is a big improvement.

I was listening to NPR and they interviewed spokespeople for each industry. Because they are exactly who we should get our nutrition parameters from.



Gonna take a really big plate to fit my big ol' T'Bone in that little space. smile
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#686299 - 06/02/11 03:48 PM Re: Food, Fat, and Fitness [Re: ]
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We stopped having major carbs with all our dinners a few years ago. Potatoes, rice, or pasta are a once in a while addition now. I'm not sure we even really need dinner at this point, so we have salad, meat, veggie. Not much dairy either, except for milk on my granola at breakfast, a half slice of cheese on my half sandwich at lunch, and fat free sour cream in some recipes that call for it. But since I cooked a roast last night, I just had to make potatoes and gravy. OK, the serious diet begins next week!

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