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#698024 - 08/06/11 08:12 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: SBD]
Sol Duc Offline
April Fool

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
This sh!t ain't helping. foul
It's easy to dismiss individual programs that
Benefit non-citizens until they're put together
And this picture emerges. Someone did a lot
Of research to put together all of this data.
Often these programs are buried within other programs making them difficult to find.


A Real Eye Opener ...
WHY is the USA BANKRUPT?

Informative, and mind
Boggling!


You think the war in Iraq was costing
Us too much? Read this:

We have been hammered with the
Propaganda that it was the Iraq war and
The war on terror that is bankrupting us.


I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.


I hope the following 14 reasons are
Forwarded over and over again until
They are read so many times that the
Reader gets sick of reading them. I also
Have included the URL's for verification
Of all the following facts...


1.
$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare
To illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify
At: http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8 <


2.
$22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food
Assistance programs such as food stamps,
WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify
At: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML <http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML>;


3.
$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML <http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML>;


4.
$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Primary and secondary school education
For children here illegally and they
Cannot speak a word of English!

Verify
At: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt....0.HTML <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.....0.HTML>;


5.
$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for
Education for the American-born
Children of illegal aliens, known as
Anchor babies.

Verify
At http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML>;


6.
$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to
Incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML <http://transcripts.cnn..com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML>;
http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML <http://transcripts.CNN..com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML><http://transcripts.CNN.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML <http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML>; >




7.
30% percent of all Federal Prison
Inmates are illegal aliens.


Verify
At: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML>;
<http://transcripts/ <http://transcripts/>; ..CNN.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML%3E <;;



8
$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on
Illegal aliens for Welfare & social
Services by the American taxpayers.


Verify
At: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML <http://premium.CNN.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML>


9..
$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed
American wages are caused by the illegal
Aliens.


Verify
At: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC RI PTS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML <http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20RI%20PTS/0604/01/ldt.01..HTML>;



10..
The illegal aliens in the United States
have a crime rate that's two and a half
times that of white non-illegal aliens.
In particular, their children are going
to make a huge additional crime
problem in the U.S. .


Verify
at: http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt...01.HTML <http://transcripts.cnn..com/TRANscriptS/0606/12/ldt..01.HTML>;



11.
During the year of 2005, there were 4
to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that
crossed our Southern Border, also,
as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from
Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds
of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and
marijuana, crossed into the US from
the Southern border.


Verify
at: Homeland Security Report:


12.
The National policy Institute estimated
that the total cost of mass deportation
would be between $206 and $230 billion
or an average cost of between $41 and
$46 billion annually over a five year
period.


Verify
at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute..org/PDF/deportation.PDF <http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute..org/PDF/deportationPDF>



13..
In 2006, illegal aliens sent home
$45 BILLION in remittances to their
countries of origin.


Verify
at: http://www/. <http://www/..rense.com/general75/niht.htm>; rense.com/general75/niht.htm <http://www/..rense.com/general75/niht.htm>;


14.
The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration:
Nearly One million sex crimes committed
by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .

Verify
at:
http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml>;
<% 20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://20w.drdsk.com/articleshtml>;


The total cost is a whopping
$ 3383 BILLION DOLLARS
A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME,
HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING
THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS
$338,300,000,000.00 WHICH
WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE
THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF
THIS COUNTRY.

Are we THAT Stupid?
YES, FOR LETTING THOSE
IN THE U.S. CONGRESS
GET AWAY WITH LETTING
THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER
YEAR!!!!!


If this doesn't bother you, then just
delete the message.. If, on the other
hand, it does raise the hair on the back
of your neck, I hope you forward it to every
legal resident in the United States .
_________________________
He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.

- Albert Einstein.

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#698041 - 08/07/11 12:14 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: Dave Vedder]
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
"Facts" posted above re illegal immigrants are not accurate.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/

Most of these - please forward me - emails are bogus. This one was. Fortunatly they can be checked out easily if one wants to take a few moments.
_________________________
No huevos no pollo.

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#698046 - 08/07/11 12:39 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: Dave Vedder]
topwater Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 06/28/00
Posts: 442
Loc: Rocky Mountain High
Originally Posted By: Dave Vedder
Most of these - please forward me - emails are bogus. This one was. Fortunatly they can be checked out easily if one wants to take a few moments.


why check when one can blame the budget crisis on illegal immigrants, welfare queens, the poor, american workers, and whoever else had nothing to do with the true structural problems regarding the debt.

raise taxes (including tariffs), stop favoring unearned income in the tax code, stop the three wars and cut the defense budget and we'd be a lot closer to cleaning up the republican debt than if we continue their policies of drowning government in the bathtub. if you want tax cuts they should be for creating jobs in america, not overseas. we need to focus tax reform on helping restore american manufacturing, not continuing the "giant sucking sound" of jobs heading overseas. the rich will create just as many jobs with top tax rates 3-5% higher than they do now.

why we allow people who honestly want government to fail to frame the debate is beyond logic. their beliefs are no more valid than the kid who believes a fat man crawls down his chimney with presents on christmas.

the debt downgrade is part of grover norquist's plan to destroy government. the republicans gave us the debt problem and this is a result of their "hate america" policies.

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#698048 - 08/07/11 12:47 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: topwater]
Rivrguy Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4607
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
you need to reload your pipe with plain tobacco that way your thoughts might make some sense. grin
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#698173 - 08/08/11 09:37 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: ]
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Why would economy of scale work with Obamacare when it doesn't work in the rest of the federal government?
_________________________
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Growing old ain't for wimps
Lonnie Gane

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#698176 - 08/08/11 09:51 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: Jerry Garcia]
ParaLeaks Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Why would economy of scale work with Obamacare when it doesn't work in the rest of the federal government?


Because you have people who think the Govenment owes them.......because they're "special", I guess.
_________________________
Agendas kill truth.
If it's a crop, plant it.




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#698177 - 08/08/11 09:54 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: ParaLeaks]
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Hank

Reread your tag line quote. Then ask yourself if it doesnt seem hypocritical coming from a slave owner?
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No huevos no pollo.

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#698183 - 08/08/11 10:56 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: ]
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Are you going to bring that up in every thread I post?

Read my response to your first query in the other thread.

By the way...Dow's down 362 right now. They also downgraded Fannie and Freddie.




Maybe.
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No huevos no pollo.

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#698197 - 08/08/11 12:01 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
April Fool

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
Gold = 1708.00 up 57.00. thumbs
_________________________
He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.

- Albert Einstein.

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#698224 - 08/08/11 03:15 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: Dave Vedder]
RowVsWade Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3359
Loc: Island Time
Originally Posted By: Dave Vedder
Hank

Reread your tag line quote. Then ask yourself if it doesnt seem hypocritical coming from a slave owner?


Hank owns slaves?

Just 'cause he's from Cali doesnt mean he hires illegals.... wink
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#698227 - 08/08/11 03:42 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: RowVsWade]
Dogfish Offline
Poodle Smolt

Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
The guy I ordered 175 lbs of 1oz. silver maple leaf's for back in early July is pretty happy. Got those in last week. Needed a hand truck for that pick-up.

This is really a fabricated paper debacle more than anything else. I'm hoping it clears up, but there certainly will be some money made on this. Plenty of blame to go around, to everyone involved.

S&P, who essentially sells their ratings to the companies they rate.

Politicians of all flavors. If you think your party isn't at fault, you are whacked.

American public, because we elected them, and we keep doing so.

The economy is in a lot better condition that we were 3 years ago. The real estate markets are recovering, not healthy, but they are recovering. Unemployment is making a gradual decline, even after taking into account folks who have dropped out of the measuremant stats, and bank closures have dwindled from a torrent to a trickle.

The is a correction, a bit stiff, but we will recover.

Vote them all out.
_________________________
"Give me the anger, fish! Give me the anger!"

They call me POODLE SMOLT!

The Discover Pass is brought to you by your friends at the CCA.

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#698232 - 08/08/11 03:59 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: Sol Duc]
stlhead Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
What's really embarassing is voting for a "guy I'd like to have a beer with".
Where'd our money go? Some seem to forget Homeland Security and TSA.

Shrub and his treasoness second to Hitler henchman:

Lower taxes squandering the surplus while......
Two wars.
Privatization with no bid contracts.
Two new massive administrations.
Lost entire pallets of cash to the tune of billions in Iraq.
BLM land giveaway to Halliberton et al (watch Gasland)
Attempt to corner the electrity market and bankrupt California (Enron).
Katrina failure.
mortgage crisis.
Attack all things environmental
accidently shooting your attorney in the face.....priceless.
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#698243 - 08/08/11 05:48 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: ]
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
As long as people want to blame everything on Bush we won't be able to move forward.
_________________________
would the boy you were be proud of the man you are

Growing old ain't for wimps
Lonnie Gane

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#698245 - 08/08/11 05:52 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: ]
Illahee Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3773
Originally Posted By: Chuck S.
with each election it is more of the same ...

because they are all assholes.


And until we see campaign reform that separates politicians from special interest cash, we will see more of the same from both parties.
Tell the voters what they want to hear, then after being elected they serve those that paid them the most.

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#698249 - 08/08/11 06:09 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: Illahee]
stlhead Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
It's your job as a voter to see through the BS. If you voted for Bush please discontinue doing this country a disservice by voting. If you voted Tea Party then ditto.
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#698252 - 08/08/11 06:50 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: stlhead]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Can we move forward if I blame Obama for everything?
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She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

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#698254 - 08/08/11 07:19 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: stlhead]
Rivrguy Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4607
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
Then tell the D's to stop trying to out do the R's in picking dumb candidates. Al Gore and Kerry WERE NOT great choices. BO was not either but he is done with his OTJT and might do OK. His nearly three years learning the job have not been that hot. Hillary would have done a better job as she is a mean ole broad that knew the system. The D's have had some of the best to choose from but they head off with the PC crowd & down the tubes.

Besides neither party should want to win this next election. The long range economic forecast 2012 through 2014 keeps looking like something from hell. We are just at the start of this ugly thing and people have gotten used to getting things with out paying for them. The D's, under LBJ, started the Social Security / Medicare mess by flat stealing the money and moving it into the general run of things. Every President and both parties since has continued this and added to the mess by expanding things without funding. Even BO's health plan is a pile of crap ( I preferred single payer that was FUNDED ) as it is a trillion or more short 10 years out as they phonied up the numbers which was wrong. Health care is a right in my book but lying and deceit is not the way to get it implemented.

It isn't that the American people can not be bribed it is just that we aren't cheap! grin



Edited by Rivrguy (08/08/11 09:46 PM)
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#698260 - 08/08/11 08:16 PM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
April Fool

Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
Tea Party downgrade rofl rofl


Edited by Sol Duc (08/08/11 08:17 PM)
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He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.

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#698292 - 08/09/11 08:23 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: Dan S.]
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Can we move forward if I blame Obama for everything?



That doesn't work either.
_________________________
would the boy you were be proud of the man you are

Growing old ain't for wimps
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#698293 - 08/09/11 09:48 AM Re: United States loses AAA credit rating from S&P [Re: Jerry Garcia]
ParaLeaks Offline
WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
"You'll always be AAA to me."

rofl
rofl
rofl
rofl

Fk me.
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