Epic Fail Annoucement Pending...What a surprise!

Did any taxpayer really think this bunch of self-serving politicians could ever arrive at a solution to this nation's real problems?


The solution? ...Term Limits!

Term limits = A GOOD START !!!

This can't come as a surprise to anyone.

Fish on...

Todd

I actually thought it would work, proving once again that I'm far too optimistic that ANY of them are capable of solving problems. Foolish me.

Now I hear congress is going to try to "work around" the automatic cuts. Surely a grassroots organization will swell to punish any and all lawmakers that contribute to the work-around efforts... (by work around, I mean neutering, not actually doing the job the committee was supposed to do -- reducing the budget debt).

WHEN they try to work around the automatic cuts, I'll be curious (skeptical?) to see if the right is outraged or not. They say they want cuts, well here's 1.2T of them gift wrapped.

B

We just need to bring in more money to balance the budget, you know like getting it from .1% who own half of Americas net worth.
That's 315,000 individuals.

The good news with the failure is that the Pentagon budget will get hit, which is absolutely necessary and would otherwise probably not occur.

Fire them all.

Except the stock market.

Maybe it wasn't a failure.....


Fishy

Better than firing them. Take them out and shoot them on the White House Lawn and reconvene in a week. I bet we would get a result the second time around. If not repeat the process until there is an agreement.

This Congress must be the worst in the history of mankind.

Your answer would be to pass more laws?

Gutz,

What's your complaint? We have the best Congress money can buy! Money from the corporate elite who profit from putting the country in the sh!t can. The same people you seem to defend, if not idolize.

I read today that we are now borrowing 38 cents of every dollar we spend.

Still want to spend, spend, spend?

Personally I think the super committee was designed to fail so neither party would have to take sole blame for defense spending cuts.

Poor Panetta, claiming cuts will hurt the Pentagon and he wont be able to deliver on their missions. I guess all those issues that led to Two trillion missing dollars announced back in '01 are all fixed now, and you are getting the most out of every dollar..... please!

Maybe we can get back some of those planeloads of money we sent to Iraq. Is that the type of spending the Rs are objecting too. Or are they upset because grandma's hip replacment cost too much?

You answer would be to have the Legislative Branch do nothing?

Time ta start over, I can name 500 or so folks right here in [censored] up Kitsap County that can do a better job of runnin this country than them [censored] have been doin. Fuckin pieces of [censored], all of em.

WTF are you talking about? I idolize no one. You seem to be as daft as Todd.

My complaint is that Congress can not get thier [censored] together enough to cut spending and raise taxes to get this Country back on the right track. A little balance in (and some leadership) Congress is all I would like to see.

WHY do you think Congress cannot get thier sh!t together and get this country "back on track" Gutz?

If'n you had to guess of course.

The only way to fix this is to vote em out. They won't know what to do until then.

Hard line Republicans refusing to raise taxes. Hard line Decomcrats refusing to reduce entitlements. Some of the same hard immovable positions many have taken here. There is no balance. Something needs to change. A few steps by each side back toward the middle would be nice to see.

In your opinion, has one side been more willing to work towards a resolution?

In my opinion, the answer would be "yes".

We know this about Republicans and Democrats in Congress already.

What I'm asking is WHY do you think they're taking these "hard line, immoveable" positions in the first place?

They are both evil and only in it for thier own benefit. Look at the insider trading. What a bunch of crap.

I don't know 4salt. Why don't you tell me what you think?

Gutz,

Seems to me only a few of the Dark Side posters take such extreme positions. Most of us are way more willing to try and work it out than our hard line partisan Congress. But then, they've been bought and paid for. Us? Not likely.

Sg

Why is nobody crying fowl when the Republicans refusal to discuss any tax increase what so ever comes straight from a pledge to a DC lobbyist, Grover Norquist.

Why is the Congress of the United States being held hostage by a pledge to a DC lobbyist?

That question needs to be answered.


Fishy

Gutz, to be correct, the Dems' *were* ready to compromise on entitlements, what they wouldn't compromise on was not having any new taxes as part of the plan.

There's an enormous difference between the party insisting that something is OFF the table (republicans) and the party insisting that *everything* has to be ON the table (dems).

This failure is a pox on all their (and our) houses, but I still believe what masquerades for a "conservative" party currently is an entirely unspooled echo chamber that boils all issues down to 3 word sound bites.

The rich are doing great and usually get what they want from our system of legalized bribery. The circus in Congress is just an ass covering for the politicians to make the people think they are fighting for them and not the few behind the curtain pulling the strings..

I think the Republicans couldn't have done more damage to themselves than by exiting the Super Committee without giving in to the "tax the rich" cry from everywhere. This seems beyond foolish to me, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it costs them dearly.
I know that I am not all that gung ho on the tax the rich stuff, but there is some truth to the fact that it would be helpful. Couple that with a cut back on spending and we get er done.
Fkn Politicians!!

The Republicans' strategy of blocking every deal suddenly doesn’t look so smart.

So if Congress does nothing, two sequestration processes go into effect: A budget cut and a tax increase. These two measures will cut over $4.5 trillion from the U.S. deficit over the next 10 years. That’s more than the Simpson-Bowles Commission proposed. And as Ezra Klein points out, that’s $3 of tax increases for every dollar of spending cuts.


http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/...-lot/?hpt=hp_c1

Perhaps their overzealous genuflecting to a DC lobbyists self serving and treasonous pledge has back fired on them.

To much grey area there?

Fishy

List of Pledge Signers in the 112th Congress


List of State Signers of the Pledge


Read more: http://www.atr.org/taxpayer-protection-pledge#ixzz1eaipICa0


Ask your rep why we are being held hostage by a pledge to a DC lobbyist and not attending to the interests of this country?


Fishy

Hank---"Let me clue you"


That's rich you trying to give anybody a clue!

What is it with The Sleaze Partiers that they don't want anyone else to proper but the Uber rich, corps and all of their ILK.

Republican Deficit Hypocrisy!

Recall the situation in 2003. The Bush administration was already projecting the largest deficit in American history--$475 billion in fiscal year 2004,

http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/19/republi...e-bartlett.html

Fishy

How many republican presidents had deficit spending?


All of them.
In fact, of all the presidents in the last sixty years have had deficits. Harry Truman and Bill Clinton are the only two president in that time to have 3 years of consecutive balanced budgets (both were Democrats). The last Republican president to have a balanced budget was Richard Nixon in 1969. Each of the last 4 Republican presidents: Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush each set new deficit spending records during their administration's. Gerald Ford's record was a mere 60 billion dollars.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_republican_presidents_had_deficit_spending#ixzz1eekJiHNj


Fishy

Toomey. Yeah, his idea is to take the worst parts of the bush tax cuts and make them permanent, all while dropping the tax rate on the top 1% from 35 to 28%. In contrast, all those making less than $200K will see their taxes increase compared to current policy. Why is it that republicans are so intent on taking the most from those that have the least?

Let me clue you onto something: Americans care where that sum is derived from.

Hank has blinders and rose colored glasses on when it comes to everything Teapublican, its ok for them to rape,kill, pillage,burn and eat babies but let someone just try and make Grandma's meds affordable and watch the chit fly!

Fishy

Sure they do...........until they have to name where the cuts will come from.

They'll talk about a ketchup study, and foreign aid being slashed, and will still only be a couple trillion from closing the gap.

It's kinda like the way an unnamed Republican will beat Obama in the upcoming election, but the RNC can't find a candidate with no name.

Dan S.---but the RNC can't find a candidate with no name.----

Now that is freakin Funny!!!!!!

Oh and sure Hank I'll take your word over Wikileaks everyday. You must think I'm a Teapublican to believe that crap...

What a moron.


Fishy

3 years ago it was "Hope and Change", what will the catch phrase be next?

Like Bush's was any better, " I am the decider" or how about "Mission Accomplished", or "Damn fine job there Brownie".

Yeah he sure showed us.


Fishy

Looks like "my opponent has a name" might be effective.

THE "NO NEW TAXES" MANTRA OF THE GOP IS ROTTING THE BOWELS OF OUR NATION'S INFRASTRUCTURE

http://www.theliberalperspective.com/index.html?entry=no-new-taxes-gop-mantra

The Republicans are overdozing on debates. Unfortunately, as of this date, none of them appear qualified to be president of the United States or of any other major institution. It is obvious that none of candidates have won the hearts of their party's main stream.

Republicans: If your mantra is no tax increases, why do you support eliminating the payroll tax deduction?
Why the double standard? It's ok to raise taxes on the middle class but not the wealthy?

UK: Republican mantra--lower taxes on the 'job creators' and no taxes on investments that the wealthy can afford--let the middle class and poor pay more

The craze for flat taxes
Republican candidates are competing to race to the lowest point

Investment experts debunk the U.S. “no tax” mantra

The all-cuts path favored by virtually every Republican in U.S. federal politics is clearly unreasonable, to such an extent that an increasing number of investment professionals have publicly rejected it. One is Martin Barnes, chief economist at Montreal-based BCA Research, an influential publisher of investment newsletters.

http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2011/08/22/investment-experts-debunk-the-u-s-no-tax-mantra/

The GOP Has Become a Cult, And the Tax Cut Mantra is Their Jim Jones Kool Aid to America

http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/12937


ETC,ETC,ETC


Fishy

GOP Candidate Clown Show Act Of The Day

Man, watching the GOP race for President is like watching trains crash in your backyard every day. It's just bizarre how laughingly unqualified these candidates are.


http://ken_ashford.typepad.com/blog/2011/11/gop-candidate-clown-show-act-of-the-day.html


Fishy

I wonder if it illegal to put a bumper sticker on someone elses rig?

hmmmmm

I sure could have some fun........

Look out Subaru's and Volvo's!

American Banksters join with sleazy DC lobbyist firm for shadowy action agains OWS!


D.C.-based lobbying firm Clark Lytle Geduldig & Cranford (CLGC) created a shadowy plan to undermine Occupy Wall Street for the American Bankers Association for the substantial sum of $850,000.

Essentially, the sixty day plan was to launch an all out smear campaign against the entire Occupy Movement

http://blog.seattlepi.com/vivianmcpeak/2...le-pr-sabotage/


Fishy

" It's just bizarre how laughingly unqualified these candidates are"

That is bizarre coming from one that seemingly supports the O guy,
whose qualifications are less than the mass of an electron.

BOA leaves citizens in lurch over potential toxic debt of up to $53 TRILLION!!!!!!!

$53 TRILLION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many corrupt DC lobbyists will this buy?

That trumps anything that should ever come out of that brown hole Hank calls his mouth.





Fishy

Just because the building crumbles does not mean that others "BUSH" did not do his utmost to tear at the foundation, making it all but unusable..


Your right Hank, ignorance knows no bounds just look in the mirror.

Fishy

Just to quantify a bit:

White voters with a college degree support a mix of cuts and tax hikes 52 - 41 percent while white voters with no college degree want cuts only 55 - 33 percent.

Kind of explains some of the rationale around here.

BTW, since you're poll kinda guy, a couple of other polls show that 61% of American voters want the rich to pay more taxes to balance the budget, and 80% of voting Americans under 30 want the rich taxed more.

Only if up is down in your world.

Simple interpretation conflict with the words, "Land of the Free".

I'm all for it......it IS free, isn't it?

I'm worth it, you know.

If Joe is smarter than me, he should give me some. I mean it.

" A government that slants the game totally in favor of Peter is one that enslaves Paul"

If only complex problems could be solved with simple platitudes then you Hank would be our man.


Fishy

So what you're saying is that
Paul is getting the Peter?

Sounds like he had better move a little faster.

Slabby, go back to the kids table.

Fishy

Either way, another excuse to use tax dollars. Nothing got done. We went into debt even more just payin those freaks to argue. Republicans don't want defense cuts. Well guess what, 911 is over. We have lost far more lifes with the war then without it.
-James.

A message to all of you who want to continue the war(s). Get your hands out of your pocket and do it yourself.

Right on, you to can become a veteran!

The US cost of defense is more twice as much as all other major nations COMBINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fishy

Wow and only Billions and Billions of dollars and countless lives lost to an unfunded war in Iraq, but you don't hear one peep out of the likes of Hank about that total wastage!


Fishy

I don't hear you whining and sniveling about the expenditures on the unfunded wars or the loss of life, only about some people exercising their constitutional rights.


Fishy

That's only a stereotype.

So when will you start ranting against fishers and hunters?