#748364 - 03/18/12 11:22 AM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: GBL]
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better Redd than dead
Registered: 01/26/06
Posts: 1202
Loc: Mt. High / Restoration Creek
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P,
"We, as anglers, need to lead by example and stop the allowable harvesting of any wild steelhead in our state. IE, a state wide ban on the harvesting of wild steelhead.
Once that happens, we organize as a group (yeah, I know, wild dream) and go to places like Komo, Kiro, and King TV and show them working tribal gillnets in action. "
Count me in!
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#748398 - 03/18/12 01:13 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: NickD90]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 11/14/03
Posts: 101
Loc: Pasco, WA
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Listen - it's extremely stupid...but its the law. Until the law is changed, some guides will continue to kill nates to appease their clients. The client is always right (even when they are wrong). They spend big dollars to fish the OP and want "something to show for it". If it's still legal to kill a nate, they catch one and insist on keeping it...and the guide doesn't let them keep the fish, then its game over for the guide. No tip, no repeat booking. I have had customers and employers ask me/tell me to do things that were legal but, I felt, unethical. Each time I have refused. It cost me good job at one time too. Walk the talk or the words are just BS.
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#748604 - 03/19/12 11:21 AM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: FASTWATER]
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This is not my Wife
Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 3690
Loc: in the mass production zone
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Here's a thought for you crackers how about total closure on certain watersheds period odd years or such and rotating a schedule like Bogy closed for 2 years then reopened no fishing period, then open it up and closing the solduc for a couple years , etc., Hoh, Clearwater just a thought to see what would happen!!!PEACE this plan would never F'n work! makes to much sense.
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#748622 - 03/19/12 12:09 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: Brewer]
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Spawner
Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 794
Loc: Olympia, WA
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Here's a thought for you crackers how about total closure on certain watersheds period odd years or such and rotating a schedule like Bogy closed for 2 years then reopened no fishing period, then open it up and closing the solduc for a couple years , etc., Hoh, Clearwater just a thought to see what would happen!!!PEACE this plan would never F'n work! makes to much sense. Hate to poop in your punch bowl, but Cedar River has been closed to steelheading since 1992; that's twenty years. In recent years it has only been open for a selective gear CnR trout fishery during the summer months. Check out this page to see how well that's been working... http://www.seattle.gov/util/About_SPU/Wa...Trout/index.htm
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#748956 - 03/20/12 03:31 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: micropterus101]
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Model Citizen, Zero Discipline!
Registered: 11/03/04
Posts: 8107
Loc: wherever I want to be...
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Alot of what i am reading here makes me want to puke still . No, that's probably just the pounders you've been drinking since 7:00am. ...and don't worry, nobody forget what an idiot you are while you were gone.
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#748959 - 03/20/12 03:46 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: MikeH]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 286
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Any guide that keeps a native is only cutting his nose off to spite his face! I don't give a sh!t about the reasons (excuses) that people give for retaining a wild steelhead. THERE IS NO GOOD REASON OR EXCUSE FOR KEEPING A NATIVE STEELHEAD! If I hear of guides keeping them I will make sure that they will be exposed on this site. If I decide to fly to Patagonia for steelhead, brown trout and rainbow should I tell my guide that I deserve to kill one since I came all that way? He would tell me to go get &%$$%##! The same applies all over the world. Why is it different here? There are fishing destinations in places where the people don’t even have a high school education yet they can see the advantages of catch and release and conservation of the resource. AGAIN, why is it different here?
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#748960 - 03/20/12 03:52 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: CedarR]
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12-25-1997
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 7345
Loc: Bellevue
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I've seen Kings in the 45-50 pound range in the Cedar as recent as 1983. I wonder how many Kings spawn there now?
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#748961 - 03/20/12 03:52 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: gooybob]
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I Banned Myself
Registered: 10/12/03
Posts: 10247
Loc: undisclosed location
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Why is it different here ?
Because it's America
I
Me
Mine
Anything else is socialism...............
Only pussy countries take care of their resources, a real country harvests every bit of every resource they have to make money off it, and then finds a new country to invade and starts in on their resources. Soon, when a steelheader becomes President, we will invade Canada.....................or just install a puppet regime.
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#748964 - 03/20/12 04:02 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: Banned User]
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Stopped Making Porn for this
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 19091
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Soon, when a steelheader becomes President, we will invade Canada.....................or just install a puppet regime.
On that note, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the Office of the President of the United States of America. I will seek the Presidency on the "Steelheader Party" ballot, and since I am the only one in that party at the present, I declare myself the nominee. I take PayPal. Thank you. Fish on... Todd
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#748966 - 03/20/12 04:06 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: Todd]
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I Banned Myself
Registered: 10/12/03
Posts: 10247
Loc: undisclosed location
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You should run as a Republican, then nobody will notice that you're batsh1t crazy................could even be a plus for ya.
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#748970 - 03/20/12 04:09 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: Banned User]
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Stopped Making Porn for this
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 19091
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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You should run as a Republican, then nobody will notice that you're batsh1t crazy................could even be a plus for ya. I'm in the Steelheader Party. We make Republicans look sane. </tagline> Fish on... Todd
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#748972 - 03/20/12 04:42 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Stopped Making Porn for this
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 19091
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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You would have to resign as moderator first.  Resign? Hellno...it's gonna be my biggest fundraising effort. Fish on... Todd
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#748974 - 03/20/12 04:50 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
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Stopped Making Porn for this
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 19091
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Whatever they want to do...so long as whomever they do it with has a fully formed adipose fin  Fish on... Todd
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#748975 - 03/20/12 04:52 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
[Re: Todd]
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12-25-1997
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 7345
Loc: Bellevue
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"Don't ask don't tell" ?
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#748976 - 03/20/12 04:54 PM
Re: Guides killing Nates?? WTH?
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 7839
Loc: West Duvall
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I have always thought we should invade Canada. It's close. We speak the language, they have abundant natural resources. And they apparently have an abundance of the letter E.
Once we are in power there we can limit Canadians to two days a week on the best rivers to assure the U.S. warlords a better experience on the other five days. Then we can let our guys manage the fish till they are all gone. After all that we can eliminate the metric system so they will look as dumb as us and need to import their tools from us. Then we can give them all of the northern 90 percent back, except during hunting season.
My name is Dave Vedder and I endorse this message.
P.S. As Dan S says, "It's not Canadian bacon - it's ham!!
Edited by Dave Vedder (03/20/12 04:58 PM)
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