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#79067 - 06/29/06 11:53 AM Any gun historians?
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy Offline
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Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 912
Loc: Enumclaw
Just got myself a Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless .32. Anyone know anything about these??

My grandpa just passed away and as far as I know, I was the only one he ever showed this thing to.... I definitely didn't have any reservations about keeping it! smile

Thanks guys!

Curtis

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#79068 - 06/29/06 07:57 PM Re: Any gun historians?
Big Jim Offline
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Registered: 02/07/00
Posts: 424
Loc: Tacoma, Wa. USA
Here is some info I found. Sounds like you might have a neat little pistol. Sorry about your Grandpa though.


The Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless is .32 ACP self-loading semi-automatic pistol introduced by Colt Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company of Hartford, Connecticut and developed by John Browning.

Five years later the Colt Model 1908 Pocket Hammerless in .380 ACP was introduced.

They were popular civilian firearms for much of their life and served as United States General Officer pistols from the 1940s to the 1970s.

Note: There was also a Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammer pistol in .38 ACP, but this design is unrelated. The FN Model 1903 pistol design is related to the Colt Pocket Hammerless, but it is physically larger due to its chambering in 9 x 20mm SR Browning Long.

Approximately 570,000 of these guns were produced from 1903 to 1945 in five different types. Barrel length is 4 inches (102 mm) for Type 1, and 3 3/4 inches (95 mm) for Types 2 through 5. Overall length is 7 or 6 3/4 inches (178 or 171 mm). Weight is 24 ounces (680 g). Magazine capacity is eight cartridges. The most common finishes are blued or nickel, but some special-order finishes were produced, including engraved versions and silver and gold plated models. The Model 1903 usually sports either black checkered hard rubber grips or checkered walnut grips, but other grip materials were used on special orders, including mother-of-pearl and ivory. Sights are fixed, although the rear sight is drift-adjustable for windage.

The Colt M1903 and M1908 Colt Pocket Hammerless pistols were issued to US Army and Air Force general officers from World War II through the 1970s, when stocks ran out. These included Generals Eisenhower, Bradley, Marshall, and Patton

Special features include a serrated slide to prevent slippage during manual cycling of the slide, and two safety mechanisms (a grip safety and a manual safety). A magazine safety was added on later models. Despite the title 'Hammerless', the Model 1903 does have a hammer, but it is hidden from view by the gun's slide. In 1908, a harder-hitting .380 ACP version of this gun was introduced. Called the Model 1908, it was nearly identical to the Model 1903 except for the bore diameter and the magazine, which held seven rounds (one less than the Model 1903).

Specifications
Calibers:
M1903- .32 ACP
M1908- .380 ACP
Weight (unloaded): 930 g
Length: 205 mm
Barrel length: 127 mm
Capacity:
8 rounds (.32 ACP)
7 Rounds (.380 ACP)

Variants
Police marked variations
Military marked variations

Rock Island Arsenal - originally the site from which most Martial Colt Model 1903 & 1908 Pocket Hammerless Pistols were issued to U.S. General Officers, historical information on these models is still maintained here. A letter to RIA requesting information concerning the issue of one of these guns will result in a response which may or may not confirm that a particular pistol was issued from RIA. There is no cost associated with this information. Letters should be addressed to:

Richard C. Neubauer
General Officer Program
Department of the Army
AMSTA-LC-CSL
Tank-Automotive And Armaments Command
1 Rock Island Arsenal
Rock Island, IL 61299-7630

E-mail: amsta-lc-csi@ria.army.mil


Colt's Manufacturing Company, Inc. in Hartford, Connecticut has most of the historical production and shipping information for Colt firearms. The 2005 Colt Historical Services Price List is available online in a PDF format. If you would like to receive a factory letter on a specific pistol, you can contact Colt's directly for more information at the address/phone number listed below:

Kathy Hoyt
Colt Historian
P.O. Box 1868
Hartford, CT 06144-1868
Phone: 800-962-2658
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#79069 - 07/02/06 11:12 PM Re: Any gun historians?
Chuck E Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1852
Loc: Kitsap Peninsula
If you're looking for a value for insurance purposes, look around on this site:

http://www.gmartin-auctions.com/gma/index.asp

You may be able to find one that sold at auction recently.
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#79070 - 07/05/06 07:59 PM Re: Any gun historians?
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 912
Loc: Enumclaw
WOW... I was expecting a "yeah cool gun" or something like that.... You guys rock!

Thanks!!

-Curtis

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#79071 - 07/06/06 01:44 PM Re: Any gun historians?
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 912
Loc: Enumclaw
An update... I looked up the serial number on a guide that I found online. The gun was produced in 1926!

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#79072 - 07/06/06 10:19 PM Re: Any gun historians?
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
I took one off of a woman once who had just hit her "fianc'e" in the head with a dog carrier back when I was a deputy. Nice little gun, glad I got to it before she did.

Mother in law has one as well.
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#79073 - 07/09/06 02:51 PM Re: Any gun historians?
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 912
Loc: Enumclaw
Just special ordered some ammo for it... We'll see! Cabellas was a 6-8wk lead time and about $5 more per box... Work Sports & Outdoors said they'd special order it at normal price and call me when it was in. I love small town customer service!

Thanks again for all the info guys!

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