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#798063 - 11/06/12 01:38 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: FleaFlickr02

So why am I playing the apologist? Well, I don't mean to do that, but as someone who's seen Mike Leach turn a perennially mediocre program (Tx. Tech) into a championship contender in only a few years, I have a lot of respect for his coaching ability, regardless of whether I like him personally or not.

Leach was fired from Texas Tech for confining a player to small, dark spaces while the team practiced.

Not that it matters.


Not really right Hank. There were contract issues afoot as well specifically a bonus that the school didn't want to pay.

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#798064 - 11/06/12 01:40 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Coaches always prefer their own players just as AD's always want hire their own coaches.

Being his first year, I think Leach waited to see how the year would progress. Once it started to sink heavily, he decided it was easier to set fire to it to see how many would jump ship.

He'll have a lot of scholarships available to give to "his guys".

As FF2 said, there are players coaches and hard ass coach. Leach has chosen to be the later. It will be interesting to see how all this plays out.


Edited by stonefish (11/06/12 01:40 PM)
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#798065 - 11/06/12 01:41 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Stop pretending TT was vying for the Big XII title every year, because they weren't.

And Pullman isn't Texas. The crumbs in Texas are better than the cream of the crop on our state's east side, so your oranges and apples comparison isn't very meaningful.

In any case, WGAF? It's the Coogers' problem now. If they love Leach, that's fine with me.
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#798075 - 11/06/12 01:59 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: Dan S.]
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True, Hank. Tech did fire him. Was it because he locked someone in a shed? Possibly (we may never know), but it's widely known around Lubbock that the administration didn't want to pay what he would have commanded in his next contract. Being a proven winner (something the fans and alums weren't accustomed to), Leach was very popular in the community, and they knew it would be hard to convince the patrons that his contract wasn't being renewed for financial reasons. Much easier to railroad him out of town before that became necessary. Food for thought.

Dan:

Fair point about the talent situation in TX vs. WA, but I think the circumstances in Pullman are very similar to those in Lubbock. Actually, Tech also had to compete with A&M and Baylor for the crumbs left behind by Texas and Oklahoma. This was one of the reasons I thought Leach was a good fit for WSU.

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#798199 - 11/06/12 09:15 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Sure it is.

F'n sodbusters and hayseeds - just heading back down to the conference cellar where they belong.

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#798214 - 11/06/12 09:51 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: Dan S.]
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No skin of my nose if the WSU fans are trying hard to not have buyer's remorse...as a UW fan I'm cool with Leech and his apologists running the program even farther into the ground...though it will have to be run underground if it gets run any further down.

Fish on...

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#798220 - 11/06/12 10:04 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: Todd]
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Actually I'd like for the Coogs to have a competitive team. The best years for this UW fan were when the Apple Cup was uncertain because both teams were doing well. Or at least the Coogs were doing well enough that an upset was always a possibility. Seasons like when the Coogs upset USC against all odds and predictions and what coulda', shoulda' happened. There's excitement in uncertainty. And the worst Apple Cups have been when the Coogs were perpetually at the bottom of the league.

Of course it's best when the Coogs are competitive, and the Dawgs still wallop 'em.

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#798345 - 11/07/12 11:22 AM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: Salmo g.]
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agree

Except for that last sentence rofl
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#798511 - 11/07/12 08:53 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: NOFISH]
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Leach has 3 recruits visiting this weekend who can watch the basketball game and football game vs UCLA. One of the recruits is a verbal commit to USC LaRue who is one of the top WR on the west coast. Seems that USC doesn't have enough scholarships. 70% chance of snow so anything can happen. And its Dad's weekend!

The biggest problem this season is the lack of depth on the offensive line which can't open up holes for the running game and gives up too many sacks. Leach redshirted 4 offensive linemen and is recruiting some more. The OL coach Clay McGuire needs to step it up.


Edited by Steelheadman (11/07/12 08:54 PM)
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#798515 - 11/07/12 09:01 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: NOFISH]
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Coach Leach is trying to bring a National title to Pullman.....So hopefully the last of the pussy's have left.

2012 APPLE CUP-GO COUGS!!!

Mf
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#798524 - 11/07/12 09:14 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: ]
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rofl

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#798527 - 11/07/12 09:24 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: ]
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Nothing convinces the mind of a top recruit from California to change his mind from USC to WSU like snow and watching the Coogs getting blown out by UCLA.
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#798548 - 11/07/12 10:32 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: Magicfly]
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Originally Posted By: Magicfly
Coach Leach is trying to bring a National title to Pullman.....So hopefully the last of the pussy's have left.

2012 APPLE CUP-GO COUGS!!!

Mf


The time has come to voluntarily check yourself in.

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#798550 - 11/07/12 10:35 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: Magicfly]
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Originally Posted By: Magicfly
Coach Leach is trying to bring a National title to Pullman.....So hopefully the last of the pussy's have left.

2012 APPLE CUP-GO COUGS!!] Mf


You know your program is in disarray, when the cheerleaders start defecting.

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#798552 - 11/07/12 10:36 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: CedarR]
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Originally Posted By: CedarR
Originally Posted By: Magicfly
Coach Leach is trying to bring a National title to Pullman.....So hopefully the last of the pussy's have left.

2012 APPLE CUP-GO COUGS!!] Mf


You know your program is in disarray, when the cheerleaders start defecting.




holy shi.t funny as fuk

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#798584 - 11/08/12 04:37 AM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: stam

If I had a kid that was being recruited, I wouldn't let leech near him.


Stam, I was just thinking about this very thing. If WSU came knockin on the door to talk to my son. What would we/he do? Hmmm not sure. D1 scholarship is a D1 scholarship.
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#798975 - 11/09/12 01:13 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: OneMoreCast]
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Originally Posted By: OneMoreCast
Originally Posted By: stam

If I had a kid that was being recruited, I wouldn't let leech near him.


Stam, I was just thinking about this very thing. If WSU came knockin on the door to talk to my son. What would we/he do? Hmmm not sure. D1 scholarship is a D1 scholarship.


The Days of coddling players at WSU are over with .

Make No Mistake, the Marquess Wilson(s) will be weeded out. Coach Leach and Staff will see to it. Don't get me wrong I hope for MW sake he does the right thing....comes back and finishes his career at WSU.

Mf
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#799343 - 11/11/12 01:32 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: Magicfly]
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Marquess Wilson's departing letter.

Click here

First and foremost IF the letter can be verified to be true. And Leach & his staff are physically abusing etc.... these kids in the locker room then they all must go including Moos. The Cougar Nation must not allow such a cover up to happen .

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#799345 - 11/11/12 01:50 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: Magicfly]
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The question is whether Leach is actually being abusive or just being a hard-nosed coach and MW is venting frustration and/or complaining?

I can tolerate a hard-nosed, military type coach to turn a program around. I guess maybe the definition of "abusive" may be harder to determine.
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#799377 - 11/11/12 04:27 PM Re: I'd like to congratulate the Coogs... [Re: ]
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IMO the kid is getting some bad advice that will probably hurt him down the road.

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