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#894308 - 05/08/14 08:37 AM Global Warming
Jerry Garcia Offline



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Since Global Warming didn't describe what temperature readings reflected we then went to Climate Change and that apparently wasn't working so now we are on to the next phase, Climate Disruption.
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#894321 - 05/08/14 12:07 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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I know I'd believe 2% of the scientists and 600 GOP talking heads before I'd listen to the other 98% of the scientists.

And you wonder why GOP voters are generally considered stupidasfuck.

Let me guess, Hank...now you'll be voting GOP not just for the "economy", but for climate change, too?

Fish on...

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#894323 - 05/08/14 12:14 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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I realize that this is probably a bit long for many board members, however it does provide insight to the dilemma that the supporters of Global Warming face.

HERE
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#894325 - 05/08/14 12:29 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: blackmouth]
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I looked it up, and Climate Disruption has been aptly defined as acute environmental changes resulting from those who believe the Global Warming farce opening their mouths and lots of hot air shooting out all at once.
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#894332 - 05/08/14 01:36 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
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Looks like FP is vying for most obnoxious poster of the year award. However, there is no award.

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#894335 - 05/08/14 02:07 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Salmo g.]
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Global __________[ insert the blank] = monetary & population control.
It may or may not be real, but rest assured it will be used and abused. That's why so many elites and politicians are all over it like white on rice. Global __________[ insert the blank] has already been and will continue to be, easily twisted & manipulated 1 trillion ways from Sunday to suit agendas.

Remember Al Gore sold his company to Big Oil. Lifetime supply of jet fuel to fly around the world telling others how to live. It's a beautiful thing. wink

But hey, I ain't having kids...so fvck it.
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#894368 - 05/08/14 04:25 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
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That's why we're gearing up for WWIII. We got to get rid of a couple of billion people in order to save planet Earth.

It's just simply the right thing to do!

Well-just as long as we don't get rid of any bankers or debtors that is. But everyone else needs to go.
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#894369 - 05/08/14 04:29 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Looks like FP is vying for most obnoxious poster of the year award. However, there is no award.


FP is going to have to up his obnoxious posts if he is to have a chance at that award.

Did not we have some kind of contest like that within the last couple of years?
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#894392 - 05/08/14 06:01 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
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#894397 - 05/08/14 06:45 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Keta]
Todd Offline
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Cliff Mass will be going to Hell along with all other SocialistAtheistFascistMericaHaters.

The Earth being flat was never...ever..."settled science"...it wasn't science at all, it was a complete denial or ignorance of anything at all like science, just like the anti-climate change whacknuts and the "Earth is 6500 years old" crowds.

Fish on...

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#894399 - 05/08/14 06:52 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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This is the problem with trying to have any sort of actual intelligent conversation with the whacknuts who believe that stuff...they confuse "science is continually growing" with "I will ignore all science, facts, and evidence to the contrary and belive whatever I want and call it a "debate" ".

It's not a "debate"...it's scientists and thinkers on one side trying to figure out what is happening, and idiots and fools on the other trying to obfuscate and ignore everything.

Fish on...

Todd
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#894404 - 05/08/14 07:15 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Todd]
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Cliff mass is a well known liberal . His blog is fun to read and he is the first to admit that they all have trouble more than two weeks out. You can argue all you want with the man caused global warming crowd . It's more fun to watch them drive away instead of bike and talk about all the miles the log traveling for work and pleasure. The jack off gesture was invented for this class of people.
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#894448 - 05/08/14 09:23 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Us and Them]
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I have always enjoyed Cliff Mass' opinions on weather.

I did notice in the treatise posted above, that he mentioned a correlation of atmospheric particulate matter (coming from the burning of coal in China) with a the cessation of, Global Warming, Climate Change, Climate Disruption. In his treatise, he later said that Chinese coal consumption, (I paraphrase), could not be the solution of a global problem due to locale pollution.

Doubt me? Read it yourself
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#894466 - 05/08/14 10:09 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
Steelheadman Offline
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Registered: 03/15/99
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Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Why so much denial? Global warming is a fact.
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#894478 - 05/08/14 10:27 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Us and Them]
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Originally Posted By: 43-8
Cliff mass is a well known liberal . His blog is fun to read and he is the first to admit that they all have trouble more than two weeks out. You can argue all you want with the man caused global warming crowd . It's more fun to watch them drive away instead of bike and talk about all the miles the log traveling for work and pleasure. The jack off gesture was invented for this class of people.


Cliff Mass always makes a very clear the distinction between predicting weather and tracking long term climate change. Weather changes in the short term and he does say it's very difficult to predict more that two weeks out. Climate change is a long term trend that can be documented by records. Climatology and weather prediction are two SEPARATE things. A hot day in the summer or a cold day in the winter is NOT climate change. Seems obvious but for some the distinction needs pointing out.

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#894516 - 05/09/14 12:29 AM Re: Global Warming [Re: Steelheadman]
blackmouth Offline
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Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
Why so much denial? Global warming is a fact.


Denial?

Is Global Warming, a fact?

It was a 'fact'.

Yes it was, 15 years ago.

In the 70's global cooling was a 'fact'.










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#894551 - 05/09/14 03:07 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: blackmouth]
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Registered: 08/04/99
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Loc: Olympia, WA
Best documentary I watched this past year:



This one looks good, too:


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#894559 - 05/09/14 05:45 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: CedarR]
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Registered: 07/11/04
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Y'all won the debate with overwhelming, undeniable scientific evidence and now we all agree that Catastrophic Human caused Global Warming exists and we only have 30 years to do something about it.

Anybody here want to be the first to admit that Hitler was right all along?

And if not what should we do? How do we save the planet from human beings?
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#894582 - 05/09/14 08:11 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
I'm sure everyone here understands global climatology well enough to know whether man's actions are causing the planet to warm.

Either that, or it's like debating whether God exists..............nobody knows, but nobody has the sack to admit it, either.

I think the preponderance of evidence suggests we're making the planet warmer, but I'm not really qualified to tell good evidence from meaningless evidence. I'm pretty sure nobody else here is, either. In fact, considering our predictive accuracy in the past at guessing the global climate 50 years down the road, I'm not sure there is anyone, anywhere, who's qualified.

I figure it will be like everything else we've done to sh!t in our own bed over the last few hundred years - we'll find a way to get by, with the wealthy barely noticing and the poor taking it on the chin.

The Earth will get by just fine. We might not, but a planet doesn't care how f'n hot it is. IMO, we've started a ball rolling we might not be able to stop - but I'm not going to wet the bed over it. If I lived in Miami, I might consider picking up a box of Depends, though.

I'm all for everyone believing in man-made global warming to do something to help the planet by killing themselves................or by killing a couple global-warming disbelievers instead.

Whichever. smile
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#894604 - 05/09/14 09:05 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Steelspanker

Gee, golly, why am I not surprised at your ignorance.

Compare pics of the arctic ice cap of the 70s and now.


Why am I not surprised? I stated facts and you call me ignorant.
The answer to my question is, I have come to expect such a lack of critical thinking from you.
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