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| #909094 - 10/09/14 11:26 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Dick Nipples
 
   Registered:  03/08/99
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If it makes the flossers/snaggers feel better, I don't floss sockeyes in Alaska or in British Columbia, either.
 Feel better now?
 
 As a very relevant aside, it's not illegal to floss in British Columbia.  It is plainly illegal down here, even if it's hard or impossible to enforce, and no amount of justification for it makes it legal.
 
 Fish on...
 
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| #909096 - 10/09/14 11:29 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Ranger Danger
 
 Registered:  02/08/07
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Sometimes you have to pick battles you can win.  Snagging sockeye will never go away, so the task at hand should be managing that fishery in the most responsible and sustainable way possible.
 I'm ok with being attacked, constructively or generally Nor Cal. Keeps me on my toes and prompts some thought that might otherwise be easy to forego.
 
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| #909105 - 10/09/14 11:58 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Spawner
 
   Registered:  01/28/05
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Whether or not it's legal shouldn't matter when the majority (all?) of those that "hate flossers" cite ethical reasons, not legal. Interestingly enough, on the rivers I fish down here where flossing is prevalent, they are hatchery supported systems. Wild spawners were wiped out years ago when they built the dams and blocked access to 99% of the spawning gravel. So all the "hatchery turds" and "AHFMD" types outta be happy the flossers are removing those fish from the gene pool.. 
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| #909107 - 10/10/14 12:12 AM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   River Nutrients
 
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Whether or not it's legal shouldn't matter when the majority (all?) of those that "hate flossers" cite ethical reasons, not legal. Interestingly enough, on the rivers I fish down here where flossing is prevalent, they are hatchery supported systems. Wild spawners were wiped out years ago when they built the dams and blocked access to 99% of the spawning gravel. So all the "hatchery turds" and "AHFMD" types outta be happy the flossers are removing those fish from the gene pool.. Have you considered Ideology?
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| #909114 - 10/10/14 12:40 AM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Dick Nipples
 
   Registered:  03/08/99
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Purposely breaking fish and wildlife laws is an ethical issue, defending it makes the lawbreaker look kinda stupid, and doing it with fish and game laws is something no "sportsman" would do.
 Fish on...
 
 Todd
 
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| #909125 - 10/10/14 01:06 AM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   River Nutrients
 
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non se·qui·tur   nounnoun: non sequitur; plural noun: non sequiturs; noun: nonsequitur; plural noun: nonsequiturs
 
 a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
 
 
 
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| #909128 - 10/10/14 01:12 AM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   River Nutrients
 
   Registered:  02/14/06
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Most of us fish for fun. It really isn't subsistence for 99% of anglers. Especially the ones who buy a license and gear and everything else you need for this stuff.
 Flossing is sort of like ordering a steak well-done. It is taking something that can be really good and ruining it. I try not to look down on people who order steak well done, or go a-flossing but it is hard. The best part of fishing is the fishing part, cheating yourself out of that when the fish will attack a lure or bait that you actually are fishing with is a total waste, like a well done steak.
 
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| #909129 - 10/10/14 01:39 AM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Dick Nipples
 
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non se·qui·tur   nounnoun: non sequitur; plural noun: non sequiturs; noun: nonsequitur; plural noun: nonsequiturs
 
 a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.
 
 
Stay tuned for the "have you ever driven over the speed limit?" comments, followed by "my tax dollars pay for those fish and I can snag them if I want, I'm entitled to them" argument...it's on page four and I'm surprised those haven't been played up yet.  Again. Fish on... Todd
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| #909132 - 10/10/14 08:42 AM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   ExtenZe Field Tester
 
   Registered:  11/10/09
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 Loc:  Vancouver, WA
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Whether or not it's legal shouldn't matter when the majority (all?) of those that "hate flossers" cite ethical reasons, not legal. Interestingly enough, on the rivers I fish down here where flossing is prevalent, they are hatchery supported systems. Wild spawners were wiped out years ago when they built the dams and blocked access to 99% of the spawning gravel. So all the "hatchery turds" and "AHFMD" types outta be happy the flossers are removing those fish from the gene pool.. Hopefully this Black Cloud and its revelers will stay down there. It's a shame, really.
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| #909153 - 10/10/14 02:08 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Spawner
 
   Registered:  01/28/05
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You already have it "up there." It's just as prevalent in WA and OR as it is in CA - the title of this thread is inaccurate. 
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| #909159 - 10/10/14 03:19 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   The Chosen One
 
   Registered:  02/09/00
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You'd better ban anyone on here that's ever fished (i.e . Flossed) Sockeye in AK while your at it. If I got to ban everyone that made a blatantly half brain-dead stupid comment on this board, there would be no one left here.   Except Redhook.  And Stam. I don't have a problem with anyone flossing fish for meat and not sport.  Floss your limit and fish and go home.  Not a single fish or cast once you've hooked your limit.  Catch and release and flossing do not mix, in my book. Change the regs so that you MUST retain the fish you hook and land. See.  I should be banning myself now for this blatantly half brain-dead stupid comment.
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| #909161 - 10/10/14 03:25 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   The Chosen One
 
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Yes You should ban yerself... On general principles....  Good idea. In my absence, I now bequeath Moderatorship to Todd The Mod. He's now running the ship boys. See ya!
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| #909162 - 10/10/14 03:47 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Parr
 
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Seriously flossing/snagging should be illegal everywhere!!!  You're cutting the fish up by ripping through em constantly, you're leaving gear hanging off of em because of your inability to tie a freakin knot and it creates an atmosphere of no respect for the fish/other people/and the environment. I know they die any way and Id rather they nourish the river system than have the eggs taken and the corpse put in your trash can!  I will pick on these people relentlessly every time i see em.  They are human trash!  Its so funny to me how much sass mouth they have to give me when I don't open carry my pistol but when they can see it they just listen to me belittle them mercilessly. |  
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| #909164 - 10/10/14 04:06 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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 Its so funny to me how much sass mouth they have to give me when I don't open carry my pistol but when they can see it they just listen to me belittle them mercilessly.   Just shoot them no good varmint cotton pickin sumbitches an quit yer cryin %%$#%%!!!!!!!^%^$#%$%$!!!!!! |  
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| #909165 - 10/10/14 04:27 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   King of the Beach
 
   Registered:  12/11/02
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 Seriously flossing should be illegal everywhere!!! Not quite everywhere...... 
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| #909176 - 10/10/14 05:37 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Parr
 
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That is beautiful.    Can't complain about that. |  
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| #909177 - 10/10/14 05:40 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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| #909178 - 10/10/14 07:05 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   2112
 
   Registered:  01/11/07
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Make flossers read brewers posts....while staked to a pile of chum carcasses
 
On an anthill. In the desert, naked. don't forget a bottle iof pa just out of reach too.   
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| #909181 - 10/10/14 07:54 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   Repeat Spawner
 
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 "Its so funny to me how much sass mouth they have to give me when I don't open carry my pistol but when they can see it they just listen to me belittle them mercilessly."
 So you are saying you are a big pussy without your gun and a big dick with your gun?
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| #909182 - 10/10/14 08:02 PM  Re: Flossing:  It's the California way
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|   ExtenZe Field Tester
 
   Registered:  11/10/09
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Yep, there are good flossers and bad flossers.She bad.
 
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