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#911714 - 10/31/14 03:18 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: Salmo g.]
Timber Offline
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
I-594 is a faith-based initiative sponsored and supported by folks who need to believe that by passing a law, gun violence will be reduced, regardless of what a logical analysis concludes.
Sg


Exactly...
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#911717 - 10/31/14 03:33 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: Timber]
Todd Offline
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Timber, I said to read the whole sentence, and now I'll say it again...if you leave your gun unsecured and it is stolen then you get to burn, too.

Locking it up and having it stolen is not "leaving it unsecured".

Fish on...

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#911718 - 10/31/14 03:34 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Funny you would attack one extreme, but when someone says "fuk guns all around" you have nothing to say.


No, it's not funny...because I am not talking to anti-gun folks, I am talking to idiots like Sol Dunce who profess to be pro-gun but hurt gun advocates far more than antis ever will.

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#911738 - 10/31/14 05:21 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: ]
Timber Offline
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Originally Posted By: 1LeggedMan
"It's still stolen if you leave it sitting on your coffee table and your front door open while you are drinking a 40 and smoking a Pall Mall on the back porch, and if you do that and someone walks right in and takes your gun then you are a dipshit that deserves to rot for it, too."


I disagree of course Todd.
I should not have to secure my stuff in my own house.
By being in my own house it should be secure from strangers trespassing and stealing.

Did I miss something?



You didn't miss anything....... Just Todd rambling thinking he's funny with the 40 and pall mall instead of really thinking about it....
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#911752 - 10/31/14 09:04 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: Timber]
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Sol Dunce has an IQ of 74? Who'd a thunk it?

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#911757 - 10/31/14 09:57 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Part of that issue what my point is...the emotional kneejerk jackass reactions by some gun advocates contribute to the problem far more than they help it.

Just read what an IQ 74 dimwit like Sol Dunce wrote above...it's not reasonable gun owners who use facts and logic to make arguments that drive the emotional factors over the facts, it's idiots like Sol Dunce who do...to the detriment of all the rest of us.

It's hard enough to have a reasonable conversation with a sane person about it...but when idiots like Sol Dunce not only yell the loudest but do it while reveling in their idiocy, then we end up getting what idiots like him deserve.

Fish on...

Todd

Quit whining you drippy kUNT.
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#911759 - 10/31/14 10:17 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: Salmo g.]
Sol Duc Offline
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Sol Dunce has an IQ of 74? Who'd a thunk it?

You're missing a 1 in front of the 7 SG.

Sol hook.
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#911760 - 10/31/14 10:20 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Sol Dunce has an IQ of 74? Who'd a thunk it?

74 is giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Mine is 401...one higher than Red Stein.
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#911762 - 10/31/14 10:58 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: 1LeggedMan
"It's still stolen if you leave it sitting on your coffee table and your front door open while you are drinking a 40 and smoking a Pall Mall on the back porch, and if you do that and someone walks right in and takes your gun then you are a dipshit that deserves to rot for it, too."


I disagree of course Todd.
I should not have to secure my stuff in my own house.
By being in my own house it should be secure from strangers trespassing and stealing.

Did I miss something?




nope. Just like everyone should lock their cars. If you don't and it gets stolen it's all on you. But it shouldn't be illegal to not lock it up. Know your environment and act accordingly.

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#911764 - 10/31/14 11:05 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: RB3]
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ok with that premise, your house is your car, you dont carry a 1700 pound gun safe in it, so if your window gets smashed in your locked car, should you still get in trouble?

cuz most people lock their houses and still have firearms stolen...

gun safes also dont stop anything, they hinder it...
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#911765 - 10/31/14 11:14 PM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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There are guns safes for cars and reread my post Columbo.

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#911769 - 11/01/14 12:09 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: RB3]
Sol Duc Offline
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Originally Posted By: RB3
There are guns safes for cars and reread my post Columbo.

I have one in my truck, that only gets used seldom. I carry everywhere I go where it's legal. <wink> Because I'm a very responsible person with no police record. Been carrying since 85'...never once had to draw my weapon. I agree with SG that I594 will sadly pass. The recent school shooting didn't do us any favors.

SCREW LIBERALS LIKE TODD AND HIS ILK.
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#911771 - 11/01/14 12:14 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: Sol Duc]
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I carry everywhere. Being exempt has its perks smile

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#911775 - 11/01/14 01:22 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: RB3]
5 * General Evo Offline
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you are missing the point... sh!t will happen, if someone wants something you have they will take it...

locked or not...

and dont forget, cops get their guns stolen too...
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#911776 - 11/01/14 01:45 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: 5 * General Evo]
ReefSkunk
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Get a job schmuck.

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#911777 - 11/01/14 01:52 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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[quote=Evo]you are missing the point... sh!t will happen, if someone wants something you have they will take it...

locked or not...

and dont forget, cops get their guns stolen too... [/quote

But why not lock it up and add an ounce of deterance? Your point of view is one of a victim.

Most cops that have their weapons stolen often leave them unsecured.

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#911778 - 11/01/14 02:05 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: RB3]
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Registered: 03/29/14
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again, you are missing the point..

if someone wants something, they will get it...

you lock it up in your car, what happens if the car gets stolen? you cant steal a house...

if you leave your pistol on the table and your kid gets it and kills a classmate yeah, you go to jail to.... if you have a 12 gauge in your locked house by your bed and someone kicks the door in while you are on vacation and takes said gun, calling them irresponsible because it wasnt locked up inside an enclosure that could be broken into just like the enclosure they just broke into to get to said enclosure, is fvckin stupid....

if someone wants your sh!t with ill intent, they will take it... if none of you have figured that out yet, you have a rude awakening coming...
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#911780 - 11/01/14 02:07 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: RB3]
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Registered: 08/15/14
Posts: 3624
Not worth it RB3, and don't argue with Hank either, he thinks he wins by being that last person to have their say. Proof is his tens of thousands of posts.
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#911782 - 11/01/14 02:32 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: dwatkins]
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They are not missing the point..you are..you cant create laws that curtail to everyone in every specific situation, they are created from a broad range of dumbfacks actions and designed to cover a large net. Fear mongering over specifics does nothing to help anyone in the long run, it's not how the law was intended or written... bit the wording may save your ass someday when your on the victims side of things
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#911784 - 11/01/14 02:37 AM Re: Political Correctness and ininative 594. [Re: On The Swing]
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And if you want an example of how "wording" comes into play in these and other "common sense" cases (not to change the subject) but reference the recent king county charges against a young C.P. Sticken woman held captive for 9 months, people responsible get 9 month in home monitoring BECAUSE of the wording of charge limitations and etc
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