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#926391 - 04/01/15 11:56 AM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: Swing r Die]
DrifterWA Offline
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Originally Posted By: TwoHandedAddict



The court threw out the suit...


Which court???? Would be easy to check.....computer and internet....
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#926392 - 04/01/15 12:10 PM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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US 9th district Tacoma. Checked the record there and it seems like something is going to happen this month. I don't have access to the transcripted records. It seems that you have to pay for that access. JP

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#926395 - 04/01/15 12:59 PM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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"US 9th district Tacoma." There is no court with that name. You are thinking of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington, Tacoma Division.

The case appears to be North Quinault Properties, LLC, et. al. v. Quinault Indian Nation, et. al., Case No.: 3:14-cv-06025-RBL.

The Quinault tribe and DNR filed motions to dismiss and both sides have filed briefs. The court hasn't ruled yet.


Edited by MPM (04/01/15 01:00 PM)

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#926420 - 04/01/15 06:18 PM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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OK your brilliant. Yes the court has not ruled

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#926424 - 04/01/15 09:00 PM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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Wasn't trying to be snarky. There's a lot of misinformation floating around on the Internet, especially regarding legal stuff. Just trying to help.

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#926483 - 04/03/15 09:55 AM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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MPM, thanks for your clarification. I'll see if I can look up anything on PACER on this.
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#926485 - 04/03/15 10:02 AM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: MPM]
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Originally Posted By: MPM

The Quinault tribe and DNR filed motions to dismiss and both sides have filed briefs. The court hasn't ruled yet.


Anyone know why the DNR got involved and asked for the suit to be dismissed?
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#926491 - 04/03/15 12:46 PM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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DNR was an additional defendant named in the complaint

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#926492 - 04/03/15 12:47 PM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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Got it
Thanks
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#929085 - 05/05/15 08:24 AM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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#929100 - 05/05/15 10:27 AM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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Tribes continue to be on a roll......"no more beads, for Manhattan Island"
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#929131 - 05/05/15 03:47 PM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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Does anyone have the actual legal opinion. There should be more to the ruling. I would guess that as a sovereign state only the Government could sue them, but the article does not specify. The problem I see is the government has no problem giving them what ever they want. I am not an attorney so this is just my opintion but it seems the best approach to a problem like this is for someone to have the guts to ignore the tribes claims. When the tribe tries to exert control, then the ownership question would most likely have merit. Because the Gov't wont take action, nothing can be done until the tribe tries to take someone to court to exercise their rights. Proving their ownership and right to control the lake would be up to them, something they might not be able to do. The problem with this whole scenario is that the tribe would probably try to enforce the rules in tribal court. When the tribe found the person guilty then an appeal to the federal courts would need to take place. The courts could just ignore it for political reasons, or, if it looked like they were going to take the case, the tribe could simply drop the charges. That way no precedent would be set and they could continue to screw the next person.

I sat in a meeting one time with a local government and at one point someone on the city council asked if the law they were about to pass was legal. Their attorney stated that there were some significant issues with it but not too worry, no one would likely have the money to fight the issue. With that, they then went ahead and passed the ordinance. Same type of situation. Unless you are willing to get in to the fight and have the money and guts to do so, the tribe will continue to do what ever they want.

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#929168 - 05/06/15 07:55 AM Re: Lake Quinault-Interesting Read [Re: JPbarbless]
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Krijack....

Go for it, buy some property from a North/South shore home owner ......... test your theory.

Keep us posted on the progress !!!!!! You could be a winner ??????
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