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#935710 - 07/31/15 03:41 PM Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker?
The Catcherman Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1246
Loc: Ellensburg, WA
Looking to replace an 8 HP Mercury kicker motor with something newer, more modern, more reliable, and efficient. In other words something better. I would have thought this subject would have been discussed a lot on this forum over the years but I didn't see anything or missed it in the search options.

After some quick comparisons, I see the Honda has longer warranty, is about 11 pounds heavier, has 4 blades instead of 3, same HP at lower RPMs while it seems like I see more Yamaha kickers in the field and that people seem to prefer them even though they probably have less dealers and certified technicians.

What would you get for your boat and why?
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#935713 - 07/31/15 04:01 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
wntrrn Offline
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Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 2665
Loc: Edmonds
You wont be making a mistake with either of them. Most people will tell you to buy a Yamaha but I think it's like everything else regarding brand loyalty.

I've had both and can't really say which is better because both are great motors. But, I'm one of those guys whose brand loyalty steers me towards Honda. Both Honda 9.9's have been flawless motors. Tough to beat their 5 year non declining warranty.
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#935727 - 07/31/15 07:02 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: wntrrn]
SundayMoney Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 1086
Loc: Everett
If you want a T8 you'll have to buy used. Yamaha quit making them a few years ago.

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#935732 - 07/31/15 08:24 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
supcoop Offline
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Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 1132
Loc: Kirkland
Both good motors. Only thing note worthy between the two that I've found is that the Honda seems to be a "colder" motor. Once we got em going they were good to go but getting that initial kick was difficult sometimes. Experienced with more than one honda.

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#935733 - 07/31/15 08:32 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
luckydogss Offline
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Registered: 09/20/06
Posts: 92
Loc: Renton
I have a 2004 Yamaha 8hp "high thrust". The prop is only 3 blade but it's big for a kicker. I've never had a single problem with it. I don't know if they make a model like it now but it's a nice motor.
When the day comes I have to replace it, I'd take a look at Yamaha again but I'd also take a look at evinrude two strokes. Ive had those on boats here and AK over the years, they were great motors. Supposedly the new ones are better.

Hondas are nice but I couldn't justify the extra cost given the success I've had with Yamaha and Evinrude. Warranty wise, I've always had the belief that the longer the warranty- the more likely you're going to have problems.

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#935734 - 07/31/15 08:36 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
The Catcherman Offline
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SM, yeah, they quit making the T8 but have an 8 HP four stroke kicker motor called the F8. I imagine it is quite similar, though the T8 had quite a following, almost cult-like.

Local dealer is recommending the Tohatsu over the Honda, even though they carry and are certified in both models. I just have a hard time believing that the Tohatsu is in the same field as the other two brands. I am sure they are fine but you just don't see the same following by guides or hard core anglers like the Yamaha or Honda. Lots of Mercs out there, which are made by Tohatsu in the smaller sizes but if I wanted a Tohatsu, why wouldn't I just keep the Merc I have now?

I'm still leaning towards the Big 2.
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#935741 - 07/31/15 09:17 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
SundayMoney Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
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Loc: Everett
The F8 has a smaller gearcase and smaller prop. More for moving light loads fast (inflatables, small aluminum boats) than the T8s big loads slower.

Not much in common other than they're both 8hp.

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#935752 - 07/31/15 10:48 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
fp Offline
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Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 2967
Loc: Hoquiam,WA.USA
I have a T-8 and love it. When it goes it looks
like I'll own a 9.9 Yamaha.

fop

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#935780 - 08/01/15 12:42 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: SundayMoney]
The Catcherman Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1246
Loc: Ellensburg, WA
16' aluminum sled so perhaps that is small enough that the T8 is not needed and the F8 will suffice.


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#935787 - 08/01/15 02:02 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
eugene1 Offline
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Registered: 09/17/10
Posts: 885
Loc: out there...
I have the Yamaha F8 on my sled. Trolls great, no problems ever.

No need for T8 or T9.9 for small boats.

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#935822 - 08/02/15 09:41 AM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
outfishn Offline
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Registered: 12/08/08
Posts: 275
I just got a sled and have an F8 I used for my drift boat. Is it a hassle having to manually tilt the motor? I'm thinking about selling it for a T9.9. Haven't had a chance to take it out yet.

I absolutely prefer the F8 over a Mercury 9.9 I had before it. It's a bare bones, start at first pull, light, work horse. I had issues with the Mercury. I'm sticking with Yamaha. Don't have an opinion about anything else but I do think the Tohatsu's are made by Mercury. Honda's seem big to me but I don't know anything about them. I've always read that you want a 4 stroke for a kicker since they run clean and are quieter.
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#935846 - 08/02/15 04:19 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
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Registered: 04/25/00
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Yamaha T-8 here, LOVE power tilt.....I'm still using original prop BUT its been bent and cut down but it still does what I need it to do.

Was hard starting but changed to ethanol free gas....starting problems have gone away....
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#935895 - 08/03/15 12:20 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
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Registered: 08/09/00
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Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
I've had both kickers 8hp in 4 stroke....can't go wrong with either...that being said I like the yami a lil better. Good luck,

SZ

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#935916 - 08/03/15 03:18 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
Swifty27 Offline
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Registered: 08/21/13
Posts: 389
Loc: Tri-Cities, WA
Originally Posted By: The Catcherman
SM, yeah, they quit making the T8 but have an 8 HP four stroke kicker motor called the F8. I imagine it is quite similar, though the T8 had quite a following, almost cult-like.

Local dealer is recommending the Tohatsu over the Honda, even though they carry and are certified in both models. I just have a hard time believing that the Tohatsu is in the same field as the other two brands. I am sure they are fine but you just don't see the same following by guides or hard core anglers like the Yamaha or Honda. Lots of Mercs out there, which are made by Tohatsu in the smaller sizes but if I wanted a Tohatsu, why wouldn't I just keep the Merc I have now?

I'm still leaning towards the Big 2.


I picked up a Tohatsu 6hp on craigslist. I put on the high thrust prop, and It's been flawless so far. E0 gas and Stabile could be part of the reason though. I've only had it a years, so I can't say anything on longevity.

If they don't offer it with the electric trim or start or whatever you're looking for in a new kicker, it doesn't make sense.

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#935917 - 08/03/15 03:38 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
bob r Offline
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Registered: 04/17/13
Posts: 289
We have a Tohatsu 4 h.p., 4 stroke, had it at least 10 years now, only problem we had was with a fitting on the internal gas tank, they have corrected the orig. problem, but you won't have that issue either way (no internal tank). Never has stranded us, has always started. We also run on ethanol free gas so that helps.Bob R

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#935918 - 08/03/15 04:13 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: The Catcherman]
luckydogss Offline
Smolt

Registered: 09/20/06
Posts: 92
Loc: Renton
Something I just learned today as I was buying a very expensive fuel filter for my Yamaha main motor was that Honda parts are a lot cheaper. Auburn sports passed this information on to me.
I think before I buy another motor I should pick a part I would routinely use and check pricing and availability with manufacturers I'm considering. It would be a worthy exercise.
Honda may cost more to buy in the first place but the fact they're reasonable when it comes parts is something I would never have figured.

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#936001 - 08/04/15 12:12 PM Re: Honda, Yamaha or ??? for 8 HP Kicker? [Re: luckydogss]
Rivrguy Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4413
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
I believe Tohatsu makes Mercs small motors. I have a Tohatsu 8 on my small boat and it does fine. Now Tohatsu sells a 150 and so but they are a Honda rebranded and on the net you can shave about 4k off comparable motor cost. In small motors ( all really ) most do fine and it is about having a good dealer to take care of you down the road. Personal preference has a lot to do with it in the end right along how you feel about sales tax vs local dealer.


Edited by Rivrguy (08/04/15 12:14 PM)
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