#948762 - 01/26/16 12:09 AM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/19/14
Posts: 171
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Bummer. Too bad there's no steelhead groups that lease land and give back to sportsmans. Or some wealthy fella that'll get the lease and sell keys.
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#948766 - 01/26/16 05:25 AM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 04/17/13
Posts: 289
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What?! A timber company acting all greedy? Unheard of! I would rather see it shut off then sell keys to a bunch of inclusive P.O.S. Bob R
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#948772 - 01/26/16 07:07 AM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 4549
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If timber companies instead of developers owned all the stream banks we would have a ton more fish.
I say lock it up and plant trees.
That being said I do feel sorry for my friends who chose to base their careers in the area because of the great fishing once offered.
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#948776 - 01/26/16 08:41 AM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: Met'lheadMatt]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5078
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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As of last Friday, It looked like a no go. Green Diamond told the dept, they changed thier minds and want to lease it instead of sell it. Grant money can only be used for purchase. It was thru to the point of public testimony, and they changed the game. So when I talked to the dept last week, they did not know where it was headed....... WOW!!!!! Now that is a change......Positive side, evens out the access for power boats...during periods of "runable water", like right now. Would be a "walk in" area during the summer months...
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#948780 - 01/26/16 10:05 AM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
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I think the WDFW is looking at this in a small way. Blake has been working on getting money for the purchase of the 7400 line as well as the Beaver Slide put in. This is being done through the supplemental capital budget process. One roadblock on the process is representative Tharinger. Please contact him to have him put the funds into the capital budget. https://app.leg.wa.gov/pbc/memberEmail/24/2That way if Green Diamond does decide to go through with the sale, WDFW has the funding needed.
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#948820 - 01/26/16 03:11 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: Met'lheadMatt]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
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Grant money can only be used for purchase. Are you certain of that? The USFWS non traditional section 6 conservation grant program CAN be used to secure conservation easements. Under eligible projects in the WWRP page it says "Acquisition includes the purchase of perpetual interest in real property or non-perpetual interests such as leases and easements." An easement can be perpetual, or it can be for a fixed period of time, with renewals, like a lease. The state then would be required to manage the easement for the duration of the term of the easement.
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#948825 - 01/26/16 04:21 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5078
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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OK, ok, I give........been up and down the Wynoochee River for many years.....where the heck is the Beaver Slide put in??????? Maybe its at a place that others call some else??????
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#948828 - 01/26/16 04:43 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: Dogfish]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5078
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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[quote=Met'lheadMatt] An easement can be perpetual, or it can be for a fixed period of time, with renewals, like a lease.
The state then would be required to manage the easement for the duration of the term of the easement.
WDFW has chosen NOT to do this. There were places on the Humptulips, the Wynoochee and the Satsop, that active partition on part of the Agency...public would have many access points, "on 99 year leases". Hope WDFW can get it done????? I just don't see much wiggle room in the State budget for anything, UNTIL the School funding Court mandated, is fully taken care of. Kids should come 1st, they are the leaders of tomorrow.
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#948830 - 01/26/16 05:17 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 10/28/09
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OK, ok, I give........been up and down the Wynoochee River for many years.....where the heck is the Beaver Slide put in??????? Maybe its at a place that others call some else??????
The Beaver Slide is aptly named, although I've never seen a beaver on it. It's basically a trail through the woods that comes out at the bottom of the Wynoochee Gorge. It's really not much of a put-in for anything larger than a pontoon, but I've seen guys beat the crap out of a drift boat on it. I'm sure you'd know the place if I showed you on a map (I will NOT be posting a map, just in case it gets opened up again some day).
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#948832 - 01/26/16 06:00 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
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The annual cost of negotiating a lease is generally fairly small compared to a lump sum payment. Also, the grant monies help reduce out of pocket costs.
Does anyone know the the structure of the lease as proposed by GD?
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#948845 - 01/26/16 07:03 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5078
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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Thanks for the information..........I fished an area, with Larry Eddlemen, back in the mid 80's. We put his drift boat in waaaay above Sheafer Ck., there was no 7400 bridge, and I remember roping that boat down a long steep hill.
We did that float a few times, summer time, never saw anyone the whole way to White Bridge. I've posted many times, how beautiful the Wynoochee River is.....always upset me, to have this river closed, last winter closing was terrible.
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#948851 - 01/26/16 07:43 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 17149
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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We never used a rope, and launched a db there without much hassle other than getting the bow under the big fir tree that used to lay across the slide.
Haven't done that drift in a few years, though.
The gamies keep a pretty good eye on that stretch though, so don;t bring bait, and don't fish from your boat.
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#948853 - 01/26/16 07:47 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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Spawner
Registered: 05/10/09
Posts: 779
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Doesn't matter much anymore unless we can get some access!
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#948854 - 01/26/16 07:49 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 12/09/12
Posts: 114
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The fishing from a boat restriction went away a few years ago. The bait stuff is still in place though.
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#948867 - 01/26/16 08:46 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: farmed it]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3513
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So what happened to the Save Creek USGS station? Nothing. It's still there. Wish I could say the same for the access.
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#948877 - 01/26/16 10:04 PM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5078
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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Back in the day.....NO BAIT restrictions, no float/jigs.....plugging, spinners, and sand shrimp/eggs was the standard. Early put in, before 4 a.m., if we got to Carter Ck. and there was a couple of boat trailers, we just floated out...cast spinners and cast bait......those were the days!!!!
No cell phones, no internet, actual not many computers, not many people even fished summer run.....fewer drift boat for the whole summer, than I see in one weekend now. Xhit, 30+ years has flown by, so glad my career allowed me the summer off, fished lots, every day, day light until about 9.
Edited by DrifterWA (01/26/16 10:34 PM)
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#948890 - 01/27/16 07:39 AM
Re: Wynoochee....7400 Line, WDFW Purchase
[Re: DrifterWA]
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 4549
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Yup the good old days back before AIDS.
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