#958302 - 06/02/16 09:10 PM
Re: Skok Closure
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Registered: 10/21/02
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"Tribal police could be out there seizing gear and boats," I wouldn't be surprised if someone did get shot. Can you imagine the tribal cops attempting to seize your boat and drawing on you like they did that elk hunter and his 2 year old son in Brinnon a few years back? http://www.sequimgazette.com/news/251049621.html#
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#958306 - 06/02/16 09:42 PM
Re: Skok Closure
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
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Also just sayin', everything people on this board accuse Indians of doing is the [Bleeeeep!] white people are doing all the time everywhere on planet earth.
If a white guy stole your stereo would all white guys be thieves?
So why when an Indian does it are all Indians thieves?
Just remember that corporations, governments, developers et cetera get away with this type of crap all the time and people get [Bleeeeep!] and go unheard but in this case since its over fish and fishing rights and separate classes, people are paying attention and the racism comes out full force. You're an idiot.
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#958311 - 06/03/16 06:05 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/27/00
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Time to go on the Warpath!!!
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#958312 - 06/03/16 06:28 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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King of the Beach
Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5179
Loc: Carkeek Park
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Does this mean I have to return the new step ladder I bought for this season on the Skok? I was looking forward to getting away from Reiter and on to a nice quiet river all to myself...... I was lookin forward to leavin a steamer on a sandbar. Problem solved....multi purpose "Skok Blind". Sneak up on some kings while doing your business.....
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#958317 - 06/03/16 08:14 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
Registered: 01/27/15
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Has anyone tried bow fishing there?
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#958319 - 06/03/16 08:34 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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Has anyone tried bow fishing there? I'm sure someone from the other side of the river has done that. I've seen Penn Pier Sticks (aka Tuna poles) used to yard in salmon. Nothing prevents them from resorting to a bow that I know of.
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#958322 - 06/03/16 09:15 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
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Loc: zipper
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I would bet that a good portion of the fecal contamination came from the rez itself, toilets flushing to "nowhere". I doubt that many people fishing take a crap on the bank enough to do whatever they're saying it did. It's more a "take advantage of the situation/publicity to blame whitey" thing.
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#958325 - 06/03/16 09:40 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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Returning Adult
Registered: 05/31/08
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I was lookin forward to leavin a steamer on a sandbar.
Problem solved....multi purpose "Skok Blind". Sneak up on some kings while doing your business..... Post of the year? Skok rec-blind...I can't stop spitting coffee everytime I see this
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#958329 - 06/03/16 10:15 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 06/03/06
Posts: 1520
Loc: Tacoma
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Sorry Salmo, You are, of course, correct. I went back amended the posts to the Skokomish VS. France decision and changed the Federal response to opinion. I need to stop being so sloppy.
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#958330 - 06/03/16 10:20 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
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Krijack,
Please, the 1963 9th Circuit decision is Skokomish v. France, NOT French.
Second, the DOI document is a legal opinion of DOI's Solicitor's Office and is not a "decision." They might like you to think that it is, but it isn't a decision until a court ruling makes it so. As an opinion, the document carries only as much weight as a reader decides to give it. WDFW decided to agree on a river closure while they review the opinion. It remains to be seen if WDFW's AAG agrees with the validity of the opinion or not. WDFW might decide they don't agree with the opinion and reopen the river to non-Indian fishing. The Skokomish Tribe and DOI would then have to sue the state in federal court to have the opinion adjudicated. The ruling by a federal court would be the "decision," and it could be appealed if the losing party chose to. Translation is that WDFW didn't have to screw over those that fish the Skok, but did it anyway. Lame, but not surprising.
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#958333 - 06/03/16 11:16 AM
Re: Skok Closure
[Re: BiLLYiZME]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7525
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
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back in the 80s there was a dispute over the Lummi Rez boundary in Bellingham Bay. Over the (what I was told) objections of WDF the AGs took it on and won a decision that favored the NI position, especially the gill net fleet. So, it is up to AG's office so if you might try to lobby them rather than WDFW.
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#958334 - 06/03/16 11:54 AM
Re: Skok Closure
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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back in the 80s there was a dispute over the Lummi Rez boundary in Bellingham Bay. Over the (what I was told) objections of WDF the AGs took it on and won a decision that favored the NI position, especially the gill net fleet. So, it is up to AG's office so if you might try to lobby them rather than WDFW. The AG's office doesn't readily respond to requests from ordinary citizens. they will however take action, or look into taking action on the request from an elected representative, or various .WA.GOV departments. You might be better served contacting your elected officials. Sheldon, Blake, Hargrove would be good places to start.
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#958339 - 06/03/16 01:46 PM
Re: Skok Closure
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April Fool
Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
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I would bet that a good portion of the fecal contamination came from the rez itself, toilets flushing to "nowhere". I doubt that many people fishing take a crap on the bank enough to do whatever they're saying it did. It's more a "take advantage of the situation/publicity to blame whitey" thing. No doubt.
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#958342 - 06/03/16 02:19 PM
Re: Skok Closure
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My Waders are Moist
Registered: 11/20/08
Posts: 3419
Loc: PNW
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Lol. That issue was about non-native invasive poop. It is different.
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#958343 - 06/03/16 02:35 PM
Re: Skok Closure
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Shooting Instructor for hire
Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7204
Loc: Snohomish, WA
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I was lookin forward to leavin a steamer on a sandbar.
Problem solved....multi purpose "Skok Blind". Sneak up on some kings while doing your business..... Post of the year? Skok rec-blind...I can't stop spitting coffee everytime I see this It's missing the customized trap-door poop shoot on the bottom. Other than that, it'll fish.
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#958344 - 06/03/16 02:44 PM
Re: Skok Closure
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King of the Beach
Registered: 12/11/02
Posts: 5179
Loc: Carkeek Park
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There is a trap door. It was closed at the time of the photo shoot. Not designed for pooping though, but for vertical hover flossing. SF
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#958346 - 06/03/16 02:52 PM
Re: Skok Closure
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
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Interestingly enough, I contacted the AG's office not too long ago (about a non-fishing-related topic) via their public contact information and got a non-canned response not too long after that. I was pleasantly surprised. They will answer some questions and also extend professional courtesy to other attorneys not working for the State, but to get an action started, or to get an opinion, it take someone on the State payroll to get something going.
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