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#965624 - 10/08/16 12:40 AM Soon. Very, very soon....
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We see you.




We see your buddy too.

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#965790 - 10/10/16 12:29 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I really want to shoot one of those two deer on Saturday morning.

Fish on...

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#965895 - 10/11/16 12:18 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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We will. They have been marked for death.
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#965950 - 10/11/16 09:25 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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My buck$ are on the two young bucks for this Saturday....


Left a nice 3-4 yo 4x4 blackie for seed last season. They get heavy ahoof and horn when they make it to 6-8 years, if you can catch one of those ghosts tending a hot doe. Saw a pair of bald eagles heavily working the same area this spring and sadly found him expired in a meadow. Song dogs cleaned the entire carcass to where there wasn't even a loose bone or two left after a few days. The randy spike I saw sniffing an unwilling doe last evening has a long way to go....


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#965982 - 10/12/16 12:02 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Good luck!

But you wont find me in the woods on Saturday! Good day to get drunk and think, "I'm glad I'm not in the woods right now!"
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#965983 - 10/12/16 12:36 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Can't say I've ever hunted in a Typhoon before, BUT...the nastier the better. I'd rather have the crap that's coming this weekend than the bluebird weather from all of last year. Hopefully it gets em' horned up and running hard after the ladies.

Sorry to hear about your 3-4 year old not making it Driftin'. Where we hunt, very few ever make it to 5 - 7. Too many Cadillacs (their most natural of predators). smile
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#966052 - 10/13/16 12:04 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I'm heading back to the far upper right corner of our state to hopefully avoid a lot of the weather. I think everybody in the state is going to get wet to some degree this weekend if they are out and about chasing Bambi.

While my infamous Buck Zilla is long dead (he got harvested the year after I spotted him), I'm hoping to go shoot one of his offspring, or maybe even grandson. If the Zilla's don't want to cooperate, I'll move down a bit and hopefully score a nice eating white tail.

Good luck to all of you hunters out there and hope you shoot far, steady, and on target!

PS. Going to use the Rem 700 .270 that Driftin' foolishly let me have. I will do her proud. Never shot at an animal wit this rifle, so we are on a good relationship for now. smile
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#966061 - 10/13/16 01:35 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Myassisdragon
while my prized .270 Ruger Model 1a and 1x5 Leupold blew 15 feet off the top of my pickup as I was trying to get outta my wet gear and get the hell outta Dodge!

Blew the gun and rain gear into a rip rapped drainage ditch, cracking/splitting the fore grip and dinged the scope up real good


OUCH!
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#966062 - 10/13/16 01:39 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: The Moderator]
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Originally Posted By: paker
PS. Going to use the Rem 700 .270 that Driftin' foolishly let me have. I will do her proud.


Was lusting after his k-15 in 7mm mag.

Paker, I was up in Tonasket last week. Lotsa whitetail, quail & chuckers about.

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#966066 - 10/13/16 02:16 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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There's no "shoot far" where Nick and I are going...it's hand to hand combat in the jungle to bag an Island Blacktail wink

Fish on...

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#966124 - 10/14/16 01:50 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: The Moderator]
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Originally Posted By: paker
PS. Going to use the Rem 700 .270 that Driftin' foolishly let me have. I will do her proud. Never shot at an animal wit this rifle, so we are on a good relationship for now. smile


She served me well and I'm sure will do the same for you. If you miss, it wasn't the rifle. wink

Upon your successful return, I'd suggest that you sent the bolt along with $88 to Greg so he can do his magic.


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#966246 - 10/17/16 04:58 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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No luck for us this weekend. But we did finally get a toad on camera.

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#966292 - 10/18/16 10:31 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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The big boys are primarily nocturnal movers with predictable exception. Shadowed a pair of does with a fawn in hopes that Romeo would make an appearance. Didn't have to wait long before a trey and a 4x4 came in with heads down and back, following the doe's sweet scent chum line and missing mine. The 4x4 was a nice 4-5 yo buck. Seems the two ladies didn't pass the sniff test and the boys were off for those in the full estrus mode. Managed to see a spike, fork, trey and 4x4 straight. Looking for love....

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#966332 - 10/18/16 03:43 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I've seen the same, what I'd consider a big blacktail buck in the same spot two weekends in a row. Lots of does around so his nose is on high alert.
He almost became a hood ornament last weekend....
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#966368 - 10/19/16 12:39 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: chrome/22]
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Originally Posted By: chrome/22
Paker, I was up in Tonasket last week. Lotsa whitetail, quail & chuckers about.


There was not a lot of anything up there. Very few animals were spotted by a group of hunters that have been up there for the last 20 years and knows the areas, etc.

I climbed Mt. Mick 4 times and hunted a nice draw where 90% of all the bucks have come from. Saw 7 doe white tails over 4 days. No muleys....no bucks....nothing.

It basically rained, winded, and fogged on us for 4 straight days. I'm thinking the weather had something to do with the lack of animals showing themselves, or allowing us to find them.

Fun few days of Armed Nature hikes for me.
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#966401 - 10/20/16 07:55 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Sounds like a camping trip.
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#966408 - 10/20/16 09:45 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Seen 6 deer this morning in one area, rattled in two spikes but no shooters, there is a big 3x3 in the same area but didn't show himself. Passed up a small forked horn and 4 spikes so far. Going back out after I eat. Deer are in the open today and on the move with this rain all night.

Seen a couple does yesterday and smelled a ripe buck but he never showed himself.

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#966413 - 10/20/16 10:43 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: RICH G
... and smelled a ripe buck but he never showed himself.


'Squatch?

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#966466 - 10/21/16 09:36 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Back out this afternoon to get back after it...one of those bucks in our zone needs to slip up and be out during shooting hours, and we will be there if he does!

Fish on...

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#966651 - 10/24/16 06:25 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Nothing for us again this past weekend except lots of fun. Bucks are really rubbing it up now. They're starting to move during the day and seem to be getting dumber by the day, so eventually they'll reach our level and we'll find success! smile

Some arse-wipe stole the SD card out of our best camera. Totally not cool.

We watched this 4x4 with decent eye guards work a back yard over into to a 1 acre scrub plot and crossed the road straight in front of us. He seems to be practicing his Tsunami Route evac procedures into the woods above his apples.

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#966674 - 10/25/16 09:56 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Wheat field bucks were very dumb this weekend. Starting to sniff and stink. Never seen so many deer in 20 years. Still an abundance of shooters and lots of little bucks for next year. Minus the 2 taken on Sunday.
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#966779 - 10/26/16 07:30 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Work days suck. I can't stop thinking about being out there...C'mon Friday!
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#966877 - 10/28/16 10:22 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I hope those deer are tired of sleeping all day while we tromp around in the bushes and want to come out and play this weekend...seeing them on the cams between 10pm and 5am and having them be nonexistent during shooting hours is getting old!

Fish on...

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#966888 - 10/28/16 11:59 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
... seeing them on the cams between 10pm and 5am and having them be nonexistent during shooting hours is getting old!



That's part of how they get to be old....

wink

From what little you've posted, they're schoolin' the two of you in their classroom. You learning anything?


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#966894 - 10/28/16 02:32 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Driftin']
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Originally Posted By: Driftin'

From what little you've posted, they're schoolin' the two of you in their classroom. You learning anything?


You guys are gonna have to wrangle 'em, hold 'em and then wait 'til legal shooting time.
Rodeo Method

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#967076 - 11/01/16 02:15 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Well...I shot a deer this weekend.

If Nick hasn't thrown himself in the ocean maybe he'll come give his report rofl

Sorry to throw you under the bus a bit, buddy...you'll look back and chuckle some day, I promise smile

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. There's always late season shoot
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#967080 - 11/01/16 02:46 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Spill it Todd!
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#967082 - 11/01/16 02:59 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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This is Nick's story to tell...and I am sure he will with his usual precision and sense of humor.

Unless, as I said, he has thrown himself in the ocean...if that happened then I will share ;-)

Fish on...

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#967093 - 11/01/16 04:49 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Fine. Absent details I am left to speculate.

I'm guessing Todd happened upon Nick being anally molested by one of those jumbo bucks and Todd had to shoot it to preserve what was left of Nick's dignity.

If Nick doesn't chime in by 8 o'clock tonight he will be deemed "man overboard" and Todd gets to tell the story.
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#967094 - 11/01/16 04:58 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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The anal molesting was metaphorical.

Fish on...

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#967098 - 11/01/16 06:08 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Spill it.

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#967112 - 11/01/16 07:19 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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FOR SALE: Winchester SXP 12 gauge for cheap. OK condition except for the obviously bent barrel and a little rust from excessively salty tears. Accuracy issues have been tested and found by point blank firing multiple 00 buck loads at the broad side of barn without success.

After a solid day of stewing and feeling really sorry for myself I can only come to one conclusion. That I suck. Driftin' was a little prophetic with this "schooling" remark. I just didn't get schooled, I got detention, sent to the HeadMasters office and ended up with a ruler across the knuckles.

Todd took a real nice animal on Sunday, so yesterday was my day to get it done. We agreed to hunt the smaller property Monday am and that I would set up in the prime real estate. Todd would be the driver. This is a pretty steep and heavily forested area. Classic BT country with lots of big timber, alder stands, cedar and swamp bottoms. 2 weekends ago Todd jumped a STUD down in our main gulley that drops into a heavily protected cedar bottom and swamp and couldn't get a shot off in time. This STUD has tore up the whole bottom and was sure to return to his stomping grounds looking for his ladies and continued security. So let's go get him.

I generally like to get in very early, set-up and shut-up. Being that this is a really dark and thick area, Todd convinced me that we should wait for enough light to make our approach. I reluctantly agreed to hold off for a bit before getting into position. Standing at the forest's edge above the gulley, I waited for enough light and slowly started my approach into the hollow. Todd would circle around downhill several hundred yards and try to push everything into my zone of certain death. With some fresh rain softening the forest floor, I easly made my best approach of the year and got into position. It's all good and I felt really solid about the set-up. The wind was coming up from the bottom of the gulley and directly into my face. Todd was coming from another direction and if anything in the county was in the area...it would flush straight up to me.

Let's do this!

So there is a small bench above the gulley that holds a very old and large nurse cedar that has been down for some time. This spot is perfect to popping a squat and posting up. Leading directely into the cedar log is a game trail that is all tore up. Rubs, rubs and more rubs. Heavy traffic and lots of really fresh turdlettes. They all seem to stop about 15 yards from the cedar. Perfect. So I get to the cedar and had two choices. Sit above the cedar for a better view of the bottom but longer shot or sit below the cedar and have a better chance of reaching the backside of the bottom. So I chose to sit below the cedar and it made for a nice comfortable backrest. I knew I would only get about 1.5 hours before Todd showed himself on the far side of the gulley. After a bit, I got a little tired and took a mini nap. Just one of those 1 - 2 minutes doze offs. I woke up to Todd across the gulley waving at me like "dude, wake the F' up!". I motion to Todd that I see him and he takes off down further in the swamp bottom away from my gulley. 15 minutes pass and I'm thinking that he's already as far as he can take it and yet nothing has been jumped. Ok - it's not going to happen this morning. I tell myself to sit just a little bit longer and I do. I also fall asleep again. Maybe a minute to two passes and I'm off in dreamland. A voice in my head yells "what are you doing! Wake up!" and I do. Through my sleepy eyes, I look around for Todd and he's nowhere to be found. I look for any animals in the bottom and nothing. Nothing. Nothing and nothing. OK - fine.

In my sleepy haze I then I did worst possible thing I could have done. Without thinking, I stood up, slung my shotty over my shoulder and turned around to walk out.

Staring at me point blank (like literal face punching distance) was the big STUD standing on the other side of the downed cedar. He was standing above my head looking down at the top of my head. His eyes went wide. My eyes went wide. He turned and bolted back up his trail. He ran 10 yards, cut off trail and crossed the gulley. I scrambled to unsling shotty, bring it up and slam off the safety. He gave me (3) running side shots inside of 30 yards and I missed. on. every. last. one. With 00 buck. Not a bullet, not a slug. 00. All 27 of them. WHIFF!

He crossed the gulley, turned around at the top hill and gave me a solid look as if to say "that's right buddy. You just got schooled by the headmaster in my classroom you little punk bitch". That mofo snuck in from behind, downwind and going the wrong direction. Sneaky. Headmaster Grey Ghost indeed!

Todd felt I would have been better off just two hand chucking my gun at his face and hoping for a straight knock out. I am inclined to agree.

I never miss. I just don't. I've only ever missed one big game animal in my life and that was a single shot 350 yard poke on a cow elk before she made the timber when I was 15 years old.

Stam and others warned me a few years ago to not take up BT hunting if I liked my sanity. If I liked my previous record. Hell, even if I just kinda sorta liked myself...don't do it! I never listen.

So in the end, I told Todd that I didn't hunt yesterday. I went successful firewood cutting with a shotty. Tagged myself 6 cords of split wood that will burn my fires hot and strong all winter long or until my late season redemption tour.

Nobody said it was ever going to be easy, but I'll swallow my pride, take the snarks and giggles and I'll be back to suck again another day. The end.

PS. Congrats to my hunting partner for not sucking and for pulling his weight. thumbs








Edited by NickD90 (11/01/16 07:22 PM)
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#967129 - 11/01/16 11:14 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Congrats Todd!

Sorry for your hard lesson Nick but tell us, what did you do right after the three pokes and the adrenaline rush?

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#967137 - 11/02/16 07:39 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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That sucks, been there a few times myself.

There are a couple apropos sayings that come to mind that are spot on IMO.

It's the ones that get away that you remember the most....(true, but I hate this one lol)

One who hasn't farked up a kill, hasn't killed much (there's the exception to the rule, but I feel most peeps have buggered up some great opportunities). I remember being on a hot streak of 15 or 16 straight buck kills, then the wheels came off. Heck..I missed a chip shot at 405 yards this year. Then an hour later smoked a diff one at 355. Just gotta keep keeping on!

Congrats on the WOOD kill!
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#967141 - 11/02/16 08:09 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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So it would seem that Todd took somebody along to help him with his deer.
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#967144 - 11/02/16 08:29 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
So it would seem that Todd took somebody along to help him with his deer.


Nick is a good hunting partner and excellent helper, and I will gladly extend the help back come late season ;-)

Fish on...

Todd
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#967145 - 11/02/16 08:32 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Driftin']
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Originally Posted By: Driftin'
Congrats Todd!

Sorry for your hard lesson Nick but tell us, what did you do right after the three pokes and the adrenaline rush?


We searched the area for a blood trail, but didn't find a thing. He did take off down the road on the backside of the hill and we found his running prints (which were healthy). He went unscathed, which is the only good part of the whole episode.
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#967157 - 11/02/16 09:39 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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The blacktail deer are thicker than rabbits around the Salmo homestead again this year. So many does and fawns this last spring and summer, I couldn't begin to keep track of 'em all. Seldom see males, but this year there was a sprinkling of little spikes here and there. My main yard nemesis is a doe that has dropped fawns at least twice now. I thought she'd found a weak spot in the backyard fence, but in fact she figured out how to squeeze underneath the gate on the north side. Anyhow, I built a new gate, and that seems to solve the problem. Haven't had a deer in the landscaped back yard in 2 months now. Of course the flower and shrub season is over for the year as well.

So what's this got to do with anything? Well I'm told there was either sex archery in September, including where I live. I told several hunters that they were welcome to sit on my deck and drink their morning coffee (beats a tree blind any day) and pop some of these nuisance critters. But they all want to go to the east side a bag a big muley or whitetail instead of one of my dinky blacktails. And it's true; they are comparatively dinky. But we have so darn many! There should be a limit of 4 or even 6.

Every now and again I see a fork horn or once a 3-point. The other day, as Mrs. Salmo was driving to work in the dark, she saw a 5-point (I'm thinking maybe 4-point with large eye tines) following a doe with its fawn, crossing the road. It's like we hardly ever see any bucks - maybe they're nocturnal as mentioned in posts above. Or it could be that the neighbors shoot them as fast as they appear - I always wonder about those isolated single shots that occasionally ring out in our semi-rural neighborhood.

Any way, I only saw 3 deer yesterday, but I didn't go out much in the rain, other than to get the morning paper and later, the mail. It probably wouldn't work out that way, but hunting a deer around here should be like shooting ducks in a barrel. But there's a buck with a nice rack of antlers out in these woods somewhere.

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#967166 - 11/02/16 12:00 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Great story, Nick. I somehow feel that Rico was involved in all of this. Now I don't and won't feel so bad when I go hunting.
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#967243 - 11/02/16 10:57 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: NapD90
I generally like to get in very early, set-up and shut-up.




Took that to the extreme! Less beers, more deers.

Any pics of your deer Todd?

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#967246 - 11/03/16 07:10 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Salmo g.]
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Our new place is thick with deer, too. Lost our veggie garden until we ringed it with a 7' fence. Would love to exercise my archery skills on them, but I think the neighbors would not like a dead deer (or gut pile) in their yards. Can't shoot well enough to just drop them.

That aside, we saw probably 10 different bucks over the spring/summer. Most, of course, were small. The biggest seem to be 3x3. Not huge, but nice. The bucks seem to be away by early summer-maybe they move into Priest Point. They'll be a little more obvious now.

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#967307 - 11/03/16 05:17 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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The deer I shot was as big of a spike as I have ever seen, on the Island or anywhere else...big curved 12" spikes trying to split into a two point, but not quite making it, and perfectly symmetrical.

Pro Tip: Don't get shot in the face with 00 Buckshot from 30 paces. There are 9 .32 caliber BBs in a standard 2 3/4" 00 Buckshot round...four of them hit the deer. One went thru an ear (made attaching the transport tag easy wink ), one went thru the muzzle...of of the other two that hit the deer, one went directly into the temple where I was aiming, thru the brain, and out the other eye, brain killing the deer instantly. The other went directly and all the way thru the neck just behind and below the jawline and traveled thru the carotid artery.

In the ten seconds it took for me to scramble thru the jungle to the deer it was already brain dead and quivering and spurting blood 12 inches out of its neck.

I repeat...don't let that happen to you. It is pretty effective.

I shot last year's buck with a slug. You also don't want that to happen to you. That one was at 50 paces, and I shot it directly thru the neck in almost exactly the same place that the pellet went thru this year...with the exact same effect:

Neither deer took even one step, or suffered any pain whatsoever, nor did one bit of meat get a hole or bone fragment in it.

If any of you have not experienced the hand-to-hand combat of shotgun hunting in the tangled brush of western Washington I would highly recommend it...just don't expect to have much of a success rate. It's pretty brutal...no sitting on a clearcut glassing up a deer and shooting it from 275 yards away, it's more like grouse hunting, only for animals that can hear, smell, and see you when you are way too far away to get a shot.

I feel pretty fortunate to get two in a row, and make fun of Nick a bit for getting a little buck fever and blowing a chance this year because I did the same thing last year, only I was able to chamber up a fourth shell while on the run and miss with that one, too...thankfully an easier shot presented itself later on the same day and I was able to close the deal.

The deer I shot this year was my second run in with the forest ghost of the PNW this season...last week I hopped one that presented me with two running shots at over 50 yards, and ended up doing nothing but shooting up some brush and disturbing the peace.

On this hunt I'll take hitting every other one as a pretty decent success rate.

Fish on...

Todd
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#967317 - 11/03/16 07:31 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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+1 pretty much. The only part that I would add is that the hunting is non-stop from the second you get out of the vehicle until the time you return. There is no down time or a moment were you can relax (which was my mistake). It's pretty fun, very hand-to-hand and nothing like the hunting I'm used to.
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#968347 - 11/15/16 08:24 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Late season finally here. It's been a long couple of bye weeks. I'm pumped to get back out in the field. I hope to redeem myself and fill the freezer. Tag soup is the worst kind of soups.

Side note: In Redmond today, I came across a young doe INSIDE of a Microsoft parking garage (a below ground garage). She was about 1/2 down to the first sub level. Thought she was a German Shepard for a moment and had to do a double take.
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#968351 - 11/15/16 08:29 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Looking forward to seeing you get one this week, buddy.

Fish on...

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#968373 - 11/16/16 12:53 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
We searched the area for a blood trail, but didn't find a thing. He did take off down the road on the backside of the hill and we found his running prints (which were healthy). He went unscathed, which is the only good part of the whole episode.



When one trips the trigger on a buck, there is a responsibility to ensure a humane harvest. Accordingly, I can't abide buckshot out of a scatter gun that is set up for waterfowl. Mainly because it is an inherent crap shoot with limited range and terminal effects. Sure, when the CNS is poked full of holes at close range as in Todd's case, the desired outcome is obvious. Conversely, if you were only 1/27 true on your pass shooting, consider that deer punched in the paunch don't leave an easily discerned blood trail and will put a hell of a lot of distance between where they were stung and where they expire. Downhill without fail and especially if pushed from the get-go.

That said, consider a retube to a slug barrel or going for a dedicated slug gun with a sight system that will steer said slug with reasonable precision. Your effective range will go from 30 yards or so to more than a football field or 2. Have a retired .mil pard that can handily snap shoot clay birds at 100+ paces with his Mossberg 590A1 mounted with a ghost ring aperture rear sight (doubles the sight radius of typical irons) and another that has taken a goodly number of fine bucks with his old 870 20-bore slug gun with a fixed 4X optic.

Best of luck over the next 4 days....

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#968374 - 11/16/16 01:20 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Part of his problem with the short range buck fever shots is that he has a special buckshot barrel on his gun, and was shooting buckshot...at the range he was shooting his spread was probably about four inches, so he was effectively shooting a slug, he just missed wink

It's a hard call to make in the areas we hunt; we both shot deer with slugs last year, mine at 50 yards and his at about 25. The 50 yard shot was in a spot that is just about the farthest reasonable shot we would be taking...it is a jungle for the most part, and seeing 50 yards is rather rare.

That being said...the deer I shot two weeks ago would have been dead with either, and I didn't shoot a deer that was too far away to shoot buckshot out of the long barreled full choke Winchester I was shooting. Conversely, I missed one the week before about 40-50 yards on a gallop that I probably would have hit had I been chambered up with the buckshot.

Either way, both work, but neither is perfect for every situation.

I decided that *most* of the shots come close, on moving animals, so went with buckshot. If I had to switch back to my other gun and use a slug, I wouldn't feel bad about it, it worked just fine last year.

Nick's miss had nothing to do with his gun, it is set up perfectly for what he was doing, and had the correct ammo in it...he just flat out missed.

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#968384 - 11/16/16 04:34 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Yeah - I just missed. As Todd mentioned, I have a special buckshot optimizing choke on the gun. It shoots 4" spreads at 50 yards. Those are normally roughly 24" spreads at that distance with an IC choke. 75 yards is a dinner plate and I won't shoot past that with the special choke. I don't shoot at animals with an untested weapon and this one has been tested on paper a lot. I really like the set-up and I'm comfortable inside 75 yards. But I almost wish I'd had an IC choke in it for that deer I did miss, because then I probably wouldn't have! There is no perfect solution here (I don't think), except for "don't miss!".

Regardless, it is good advice. Thanks Gents and we hope to have some good news to share in a few days.


Edited by NickD90 (11/16/16 04:45 PM)
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#968396 - 11/16/16 05:18 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I've shot a lot of shotgun shells in my life, but have never hunted big game with a scattergun (though I've always wanted to).

What brand of barrel/choke are you using if you don't mind me asking? 4" group at 50 yards is phenomenal.

I used to chat with Stan Baker at his shop in Lake City (or was it Kenmore) back in early 90's. He was quite instrumental early on in the development of choke tubes. I always did want to own one of his barrels, but at that time in my life, they were priced out of my reach.

Good luck! Off to cut up my kids Idaho whitetail.
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#968398 - 11/16/16 05:35 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Here you go Snit...

Carlson's Winchester Buckshot Choke (near the bottom of the page)

Shooting a Winny SXP 26" pump ($350) with 2.75 00 buck. I picked that gun because its a tough working tool and I won't feel bad about a scratch here or there when the going gets tough. It can handle getting soaked. It cycles really fast with the auto-blow back feature (3 shots in about 1 second out of a pump, similar to a Benelli Nova). It takes some getting used to, but once you figure out the cadence of the pump, it works like normal. The Carlson choke is extended and ported. It has special ribbing to pull the wad off early and prevent down range shot disruption. At 50 yds (zero), all 9 pellets are generally within the size of an orange (+/- 1"). Occasionally, you may get a single flier that turns the spread into the size of a cantaloupe. I can deal with that. It's pretty amazing and does a MUCH better job than I thought it would do.

So when I shot at the deer at 10 - 15 - 25 yards, it really was like shooting a single slug. I'm certain I shot high.

PS> My SXP also has internal recoil dampeners + a limbsaver slip on pad. With the ported choke, the recoil is like a .410 and almost non-existent. It's twice as loud as a standard non-ported gun. It definately goes BOOM!


Edited by NickD90 (11/16/16 06:07 PM)
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#968405 - 11/16/16 07:16 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I shot last year's deer...and missed at my first one this year...with a 28" barrel and an improved cylinder, shooting slugs ..I wouldn't shoot buckshot out of that gun as I wouldn't like the spread past about 25 yards...

Nick had a family heirloom gun that he asked me to shoot two weeks ago, so I did...and that's the one I shot the deer with.

Nick can correct me if I don't get this entirely correct... it's his late grandfather's early 50's Winchester 12 gauge pump, 30 inch barrel with a factory full choke.

As previously mentioned...you don't want to be shot with that gun and 00 buckshot at 30 yards ;-)

Fish on...

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#968426 - 11/17/16 08:27 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Great info, quite impressive!

Thanks for the reply.
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#968428 - 11/17/16 09:36 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Soooooo......

If your shots will be inside 45 yards then your 3" - 4" pattern is too tight.
Why even shoot buckshot if you aren't going to take advantage of the pattern?
Might as well shoot a slug with a bazillion times more knock down.
Of course both would only work when you aim the 3" impact zone to the right spot.

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#968436 - 11/17/16 01:01 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Hee Heee Hee.

Unfortunately that kind hearted approach has no place here on the .........Darkside. smile

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#968445 - 11/17/16 03:53 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I believe part of the reason for the shotgun approach is that a high powered rifle bullet can reach some dwellings on the island.
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#968456 - 11/18/16 09:27 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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No shotgun slugs allowed?
Regardless I'm sure Todd and Nick have it figured out and I hope they are taking bites out of the deer,s heart right now.
Man is a hunter gather.

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#968472 - 11/18/16 12:55 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Slugs are OK, rifles are not.

Spent some time in the woods with a couple of deer today, but no shots presented themselves, so Nick is getting antsy...lunch is over, back at it.

Fish on...

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#968485 - 11/18/16 10:07 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
Shooting a Winny SXP 26" pump ($350) with 2.75 00 buck. It cycles really fast with the auto-blow back feature (3 shots in about 1 second out of a pump, similar to a Benelli Nova). It takes some getting used to, but once you figure out the cadence of the pump, it works like normal.

So when I shot at the deer at 10 - 15 - 25 yards, it really was like shooting a single slug.



Given that scalded bucks get out of the starting blocks fast, 10-25 yards goes by in a snap. Shooting accurately always trumps shooting fast.

Originally Posted By: NickD90
I'm certain I shot high.


Just like looking at the rack on a lovely lass at first meeting rather than her eyes, focusing on the same of a sprinting buck rather than the boiler room when you trip the trigger will oft yield the same outcome.... wink

Originally Posted By: NickD90
I'm comfortable inside 75 yards.


What was that famous quote from Dirty Harry about limitations? I care not how fast projectiles leave the muzzle. I do care about how they retain same at POI. 00 buck has the G1 ballistic coefficient of a beach ball. It sheds significant velocity and energy such that each pellet packs about the same oomph as a .22 RF at fifty paces. Ya, there's 9 of them packed tight out of your particular tube but as I said in my previous post, they have terrible terminal performance to reliably crush CPS/CNS systems compared to a slug at that distance and beyond.

Watched a doe snuggle with a handsome fork horn at first light. I didn't intrude. Hope you find his big brother....


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#968487 - 11/18/16 11:27 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Driftin']
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Very strong in this one, the fever is.



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#968491 - 11/19/16 10:57 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I have found it to be true that the amount of respect one possesses for the game they pursue is directly proportional to their amount of self-respect.

Over a handful of decades, my brothers and sisters that inhabit remote and wild places have graciously taught me many valuable and humbling lessons. Just because one ventures into their realm with a modicum of fitness and the presumptions of superior hardware and superior intellect does not make desired outcomes a foregone conclusion. As witness to the ineptitude of some "sportsmen" in their ability to seal the deal under such delusions, coming upon a gut shot elk and having to take responsibility for a regal beast's suffering will frost anyone's pumpkin. It did mine. Especially after traveling across three states for a solo hunt with a prized any elk tag in hand.

Perspective is everything--The one who initiated this particular chain of events likely carried on with their vacation and life, I witnessed a tragic scene as a result but suffered only a minuscule amount compared to the price that elk ultimately paid. The gift of life is the most precious one. Whether given or received....

If anything I've proffered in this thread will preclude such an event from occurring in the reader's future, that's indeed a good thing for all parties. May The Force be with you.

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#968492 - 11/19/16 11:34 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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To add to what Driftin' said, when we hunt the intent is to kill something. You should not be afield with a weapon if you don't understand that. Then, you must have the understanding of your weapon and the practice to deliver a killing shot on the first try before going out. If you haven't practiced enough, if you don't know your weapon's abilities, then leave it home and go hiking.

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#968524 - 11/21/16 09:50 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Much of my deer hunting has been archery. If it is moving it is not shot at. With a rifle I think I have shot at a couple slowly walking deer but they are mostly standing. If you have practiced running shots, and we did when I was a kid, then fine. If you haven't practiced the shot it probably shouldn't be taken. At least in my pea brain.

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#968528 - 11/21/16 12:11 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Must be more bad news on the timber rat front as I see no grip and grin pics.

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#968530 - 11/21/16 12:31 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I have a feeling there will be a report from Nick soon...and it's a good thing that deer are shot by hunters in the woods rather than by commentators sitting in comfy office chairs, a 44 yard shot put four BBs in a deer on Saturday, facing straigh on...one in the head, three in the neck, deer went up on its hind legs, fell over backwards, feet straight up, dead before it hit the ground...again.

No holes, bone or bullet fragments in any of the eatin' parts...again.

Fish on...

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#968548 - 11/21/16 07:38 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Fresh doe heart, winter crab and a cold one. Much better than tag soup! It was a long and tough season, but we learned a lot about our properties and the deer that call it home. Luckily, the God's of Hunting took pity on us and gave us an end of season animal Saturday night. I really owe a lot to my hunting partner and all the property owners that helped make this a successful season. thumbs

Onto winter steel....
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#968551 - 11/21/16 07:58 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Very nice beer

Nothing better than winter steelheading with a filled deer tag
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#968557 - 11/21/16 10:53 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Good Show guys. You guys put in the preparation this year and made yourselves successful. All of us admire that.

I'm butchering a few very well fed cows Saturday. If either of you lend me a big cooler (ill need extras) and leave a lil venison in there, they would be returned with some Grade AAA.
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#968558 - 11/21/16 11:03 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Deal Ryley - you can borrow any / all of my big coolers. Let me know if you need help butchering on Saturday. I'd be happy to help.
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#968559 - 11/21/16 11:11 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Im Paying to have them culled, processed, and wrapped. I'll need them in a few weeks on distribution day to Roger, CanyonMan, Rico, and family.
Still have 1/2 a cow for sale. $5lb Wrapped! 10$ if you are a dick on the Dark side....
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#968560 - 11/21/16 11:57 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Nice job on the deer, Todd and Nap. It has been an entertaining and informational read. Glad you guys both found success!



I will take some at $10/lb Steak-Guy.

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#968570 - 11/22/16 07:58 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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it is amazing how many deer are on the island and how difficult the hunt can be, good job.
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#968576 - 11/22/16 08:21 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Nice job.
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#968577 - 11/22/16 08:33 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Nick,

I'm glad to read of your success. As a contingency I tied up that spike that was wandering around my garage the other day. I'll go untie him now. He's been getting onery cuz of all the does in the yard next door.

Sg

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#968579 - 11/22/16 08:49 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Here's Christmas gift idea for you boyz...




And you can use them as cork screws during the off-season.


smile

Congrats on the successful hunt guys !


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#968582 - 11/22/16 10:53 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Todd you seem angry since the election.

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#968584 - 11/22/16 11:06 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Congrats Nick on your success. Because venison isn't marbled like elk or Ry's AAA beef, here's a suggestion for your roasts--

Drop the selected roast into a large Zip-Loc bag. Add 2 Tbsp. Jew salt and 1/4C brown sugar to the bag with only enough water to dissolve same and cover the roast when the air is burped out of the bag. Drop it into a SS mixing bowl in the event the bag leaks a tad and let it soak for a couple hours at room temperature, flopping the bag on occasion.

If not already there, let roast get to room temperature. Preheat oven to 250F. Pat roast dry with a paper towel, rub with a light coat of olive oil and sprinkle with a few pinches of alder smoked salt (seasalt.com) and fresh ground pepper. Sear roast in smoking hot olive oil-lubed cast iron skillet to just brown the outside. Place seared roast on the rack of a roasting pan (can also use a cookie cooling rack on a baking sheet) and let it go until the inside reads 135F for med. rare. Remove, tent with foil and let rest for 20 minutes before thinly slicing.

Enjoyed backstrap roast for dinner the past few nights....




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#968585 - 11/22/16 11:19 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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That sounds delish! I'm going purchase some Alder salt and try that recipe ASAP. Thanks again everyone. smile
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#968588 - 11/22/16 11:44 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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Originally Posted By: WDFW X 1 = 0
Todd you seem angry since the election.


Not even a little...I continue to live the life, as always.

Fish on...

Todd
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#968605 - 11/22/16 02:00 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Congrats Nick!
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#968654 - 11/22/16 08:42 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
it is amazing how many deer are on the island and how difficult the hunt can be, good job.


Truth.

There are somewhere in the neighborhood of 200-250 deer harvested per year on Whidbey, which sounds like a high number...but it's a huge island, the biggest in the lower 48, and there are a lot of deer there.

There are three types of land in south Whidbey (where we hunt); the towns of Clinton, Freeland, and Langley, and some parks around them, where there is no hunting. Not surprisingly, you can eyeball a metric shitton of deer in those places every night, and even a few around during the day. These deer have small home ranges and probably never leave the city limits their entire lives.

These are not the deer we are hunting.

The second type of land is semi-developed land outside the city limits...yards, farms, neighborhoods, a couple of golf courses. There is no hunting in the neighborhoods and golf courses, of course, and since the farms are sheep and cattle farms, there is no hunting on them, either. The rest in this category are literally people's yards. Those yards border on the heavy woods and get visiting deer all the time, and those are the ones that make up the bulk of the harvest...the homeowner shoots them in their back yard eating on their apple trees. The great majority of those 200 some odd deer are shot by residents in their yards...making morning coffee, look out the window and see a deer, grab gun from behind the door...BAM!

We aren't hunting these deer, either, except for one house on a 40 acre parcel we have permission to hunt...that owner doesn't mind if we shoot one in their yard, but we don't sit around and hunt it, it's where my rig is parked and where we start and end each day.

The last kind is the kind we hunt; an 80 acre parcel and a 40 acre parcel of mostly undeveloped land. There are some cleared areas, some meadowy-type areas, but almost all of it on both parcels is solid bushes and trees, with deer trails and short views. Steep, brushy, big trees, little trees, really swampy bottoms. It is shittty to walk thru, and there are very, very few spots where you can sit and watch an area and feel like you might see a deer...in most areas you would have to have one literally walk up on you while you were sitting.

That being said, I think that's how most of the handful of hunters do it, they find a spot where they can see 50 yards and sit there all day and wait for a deer to walk up on them. It works, but it's boring as hell and not very productive. As far as I'm concerned you may as well go somewhere where you can use your rifle and go sit on a clearcut all day with a thermos of coffee and update your facebook status hourly.

I like to get in the bushes with them, and creep around in the bushes, covering a few miles a day on game trails, and walking up on bedded down deer, or on deer that have got up to have their mid-day leg stretch and snack. (most of our deer there are harvested mid-day, otherwise they just aren't off their beds).

There aren't many hunters out there who are successful (outside of the homeowners shooting yard deer)...it's the crappiest terrain, with the sneakiest deer, in a place where it is virtually impossible to move without making a ton of noise. It's rarely windy, and rarely rainy, so it's almost always silent in the woods.

We team up occasionally and try and drive an area to a viewing spot for a shooter...it hasn't worked for us yet, for two reasons. One, the deer won't move unless you literally step on them, they just hunker down. Two, even if you drive one in front of you it will have to walk into a very small shooting area for the guy waiting at the other end, and the math says that it's unlikely, they just walk right by the guy and he never even knows it was there.

Last year I watched a buddy of mine walking up a trail. I was already tagged out, and was watching him from about 100 yards away, on one of the few "roads" in either of these parcels. "Roads" is in quotes because it was a road when it was originally logged, they are grown over trails now. He stepped to the edge of the "road" and stood up on a log and peered into the woods...and a deer came out of the woods right behind him, looked right at his back, and walked right behind him and into the bushes on the other side of the road.

It walked thru thick bushes, across the road ten feet behind him, and back into the thick bushes...and my buddy never even heard it. Makes me wonder how many are doing that around us in the bushes all day when we don't have a vantage point to see them! (Nick and I were both tagged out at this point last year, and I called a buddy to come out and hunt with us, and he went straight to that spot and shot that deer the next morning, a decent three point).

Their patterns are really erratic, and even with game cams cataloging their movements, there isn't a lot to learn except that there are a lot of deer around at night and they don't come out during the day.

On the 80 acre piece of land we had a handful of cameras and one would catch a deer on one night, and then again three nights later...and then he'd be gone for two weeks, and then show up on a cam a mile away, and not ever show up on the cams in between the two.

This happened repeatedly.

I can say this, though...the deer I shot two weeks ago showed up on a cam eight weeks ago, once, and we never saw him again. When I shot him he was 200 feet from that cam as the crow flies.

On the 40 acre parcel the landowner has permitted about half a dozen people to hunt there, and in the ten years since he built his house on the parcel there have been a grand total of four deer harvested there...the fourth one being the one we got last Saturday afternoon. Two of those four deer were shot in his yard. I jumped a giant three point with a doe there a month ago, but no chance to shoot, and that's the same one that Nick shot at and missed the following week. I also missed one there last year, as did one of our buddies.

There are five people with permission to hunt on the 80 acre parcel. One of the fellas had open heart surgery and almost exclusively sits in his truck on a cleared area and waits for a deer to come to him, he's not up to hiking up and down all the steep hills in the bushes. That has worked for him more than once over the years.

Not sure how many total have been killed there over the years, but we have done pretty well there. I shot one there this year and last year, and two of our buddies each shot one there last year as well. It's also where I missed one this year.

That's the parcel where we had all of our game cams, and even though we saw about a dozen different bucks on the cams ranging from young spikes to an absolutely behemoth four point, and everything in between, we only saw two deer in what was probably seven hunting days there this season...the one I shot, and the one I missed. Nick spotted the one I shot the night before but didn't get a shot, but I did the next day not far from where he saw it, and where it was on the cam two months earlier.

All this is to say that yes, there a lot of deer around there, and yes, they are the hardest animals I have ever hunted. To be able to be consistently successful there has been far more fulfilling than all of the other deer and elk hunts I have participated in over the years. They were fun, too, but I finally hung it up for quite a long time because they never really felt like hunting...they felt like shooting, and didn't tickle me in the right places.

This hunt completely does. I already can't wait until next year.

Fish on...

Todd
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#968674 - 11/23/16 06:53 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Todd]
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Nice write-up.
Reminds me of hunting whitetail in NE.

What about a tree stand and some bait ?
Sounds a little ghetto, but it might be an equalizer under those jungle conditions.
I think bait is legal if the bait amount does not exceed 10 gallons.
Might want to verify that.
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#968675 - 11/23/16 07:42 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Have seen hundreds of deer over there in the early morning in my years of fishing the beach.
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#968676 - 11/23/16 08:06 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: Todd]
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Just to be an a**hole, because it is so much fun, but the largest island in the Lower 48 is the Olympic Peninsula. When they dug Black Lake Ditch from the lake to Percival Creek they essentially made the OP and the Kitsap Peninsulas an island as they are surrounded by water. Black Lake to Black River to Chehalis River to the Pacific to the Straits, down the Sound to Capitol Lake, up Percival Creek to Black Lake Ditch to Black lake and point of beginning.

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#968677 - 11/23/16 08:13 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Great story about the hunting of those deer. Sounds real tough but very satisfying. My Dad and his hunting buddy used to hunt blacktails in Marin County. His buddy wanted to find the one bush, that when you yanked it it, would lift up all the vegetation from the hillside so you could see all the deer he knew were hiding there. Gotta find that bush, Todd.

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#968679 - 11/23/16 08:25 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Stands and bait are both legal there, and there is a stand on the 40 acre parcel. I sat in it last year and watched a big mature doe wander around well out of range from it while mostly wanting to stab myself for the boredom.

A well placed stand with consistent apples would no doubt be the best way to be successful there, but holds little interest for me so far as the thrill of the hunt goes...but on a season like this one where it took three weeks for me to shoot one and an additional late season three days for Nick to fill his tag, sitting in a good stand would start to look better as time goes by!

Fish on...

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#968689 - 11/23/16 10:42 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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You guys are right...Whidbey is the fourth largest island in the lower 48 ;-)

Point is... it's big.

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#968692 - 11/23/16 11:27 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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#968697 - 11/23/16 02:12 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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That's a good background report Todd. It sounds so much what I think the blacktail population around my place must be like. Either there are nine deer (cuz that's the most I've seen at one time) that run around making all these trails, or there's dozens or hundreds of deer. When they're in the jungle I see none, if they are in yards, driveways, or along the roads I might see from one to eight when I go for a walk around the lake. The sex ratio is puzzling. I see very few bucks. Either the bucks get shot almost as soon as they sprout little spikes, or the bucks are more reclusive and stay in the jungle, coming out only at night.

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#968713 - 11/23/16 05:33 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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We don't have any hunting around here and most of the year all we see is does and fawns. One day in spring we had six bucks walk through in a herd. Last Fall we saw a nice 3 pt and there is somebody walking around with huge feet. After early spring I think most of the bucks are in the Priest Point Park canyons and swales. The does and fawns are in our yards.

Would really be fun to radio tag on a bunch and see just where they go.

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#968714 - 11/23/16 06:17 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Surprisingly, even though it's either sex, any deer, on Whidbey...the doe we got this year was the only doe so far...not for passing shots, but because we just haven't seen them.

Go around town where they are sitting around in the parks or on golf courses and there are lots of does...in our hunting zones, we don't see as many.

Our few cams on the 80 acre parcel had does on them...and though it's hard to tell them apart other than by age class (unlike the bucks who all look different, in racks and bodies), there are still at least as many bucks on those cams as does, and probably more.

It's been an oddity there...when you see deer in the no hunting zones there are a ton of does, but when you are in the areas we hunt, almost all bucks.

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#968744 - 11/24/16 09:23 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Yeah - great write up Buddy. Going to cut n' wrap today! thumbs

I'm already thinking about, researching and writing down what I may do differently next year. The list is long, but its going to start with a couple of well placed tree stands n' apples and better cleared trails. Todd can't sit for longer than about 10 minutes, where I can warm my butt all day long if needed.

It is a bit odd that our Buck-to-Doe ratio is so off. I'd say its at least 50%+ Bucks where we hunt. Very few Does realatively speaking. It's kinda strange.

I am convinced that there are good sized Bucks all around us. Everywhere. Even a legit Toad or two. Our trail cams don't lie. They just don't ever come out of the deep woods during the day, except for the rut. Even with the full rut cycle, spotting one during the day and having a shot in the thick stuff creates extremely low odds. My kind of odds. I may do less walking and more sitting over bedding trail extry & exits next year. I don't know...we'll see what happens.

Anyway, better get to work wrapping...
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#968747 - 11/24/16 09:28 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
Yeah - great write up Buddy. Going to cut n' wrap today! thumbs

I'm already thinking about, researching and writing down what I may do differently next year. The list is long, but its going to start with a couple of well placed tree stands n' apples and better cleared trails. Todd can't sit for longer than about 10 minutes, where I can warm my butt all day long if needed.

It is a bit odd that our Buck-to-Doe ratio is so off. I'd say its at least 50%+ Bucks where we hunt. Very few Does realatively speaking. It's kinda strange.

I am convinced that there are good sized Bucks all around us. Everywhere. Even a legit Toad or two. Our trail cams don't lie. They just don't ever come out of the deep woods during the day, except for the rut. Even with the full rut cycle, spotting one during the day and having a shot in the thick stuff creates extremely low odds. My kind of odds. I may do less walking and more sitting over bedding trail extry & exits next year. I don't know...we'll see what happens.

Anyway, better get to work wrapping...



Forget the apples (soda pop) and go straight for the "hard stuff to bring out Grandpa"....
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#968761 - 11/24/16 11:45 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Given that some puke swiped your SD card, there are others bumbling about. Should any of you walk through their bedding area(s), they will pull up stakes and not return until things quiet down. If you're contemplating stand(s), be careful not to stink up your AO unless you get to the last couple days, get desperate, and go for a deep dive. During the rut, the big boys can be had when looking for love but as Todd noted from your digicams, they are primarily nocturnal ghosts. The boys also move the ladies around with their amorous intent. Why do you think all those does are in the wide open spaces but there are no bucks to be seen? When a doe is in estrus, they will oft get aggressive with a potential suitor. Seen it. Until then, they will generally seek a reprieve from the harassment. Saddles, canyon heads, fence lines, lakes and other such things will funnel such movements of cruising bucks. Have also seen bucks walk right through apples on the ground in an orchard to romance a doe munching on one. Place your stand(s) accordingly and give consideration to Todd's bumbling about painting his scent downwind and using it to your advantage. You could always just baptize yourself with a bottle of hot doe in estrus urine. Have heard good things.... wink

You boys cutting & wrapping your own venison? In my youth, had the good fortune of having a local butcher in our ranks. There was always a big C&R party after the season. The newbies would get tossed the trim pieces for the grind and the veterans would break down the quarters into roasts. There are lots of vids on youtube now. The McClendon's Meats vids are quite well done (no pun intended). Locally-sourced organic pork shoulder and belly added to the trim make for an excellent grind. Our 3/4 hp Tor Rey does a beautiful job and stuffs dozens of 2# bags in a snap.

Just walk into a butcher shop during hunting season and take a gander at what some folks drag in, literally. Most butchers do their processing in batches so what you see hanging will oft get mixed in with yours. Especially for your grind....

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#968762 - 11/25/16 01:35 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Yes, we do all of our own cutting and wrapping, and grinding of the burger.

Fish on...

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#968765 - 11/25/16 09:41 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I refuse to pay for a butcher to cut up a small deer. Its so simple to do yourself and I know exactly what I am getting back in return. We use just about every part of the animal. Good cuts go to roasts and steaks. Grind goes to burger (+ 25% bacon ends/ peices or beef suet - whatever). Liver and kidneys goes to Liverwurst. Cull fat for wrapping meatballs. Bones for stock. Scraps for homemade dogfood. The tail gets cut off, salted and saved for fly tying. Only the head, forearms and hide gets tossed. I've even thought to cut out the hooves for dog chews - but that is a super pain in the butt. I may build a hide scrape and drying rack for next year and brain tan my own hide (another pain in the butt). No butcher would take the time or care to do the job we do. It's important to us that the animal is fully utilized to our best abilities.

We are both softies when it comes to taking an animal's life. There is no cheering and high fives. It's very quiet and we say our peace to the animal in our own ways. I've been known to slip a last bite of grass in an animals mouth as a final meal (old world European style "contribution". I'm Prussian German and that's how Gramps taught us). I'd be damned to go through all of that and let a butcher rip the deer and me off. The deer deserves better. My dogs certainly thank us for the tasty meals.

Homemade Dogfood recipe: Take all scraps, fat and silver and course grind. One BT deer may give roughly 30 lbs of scrap meat. Brown grind without any seasonings of any kind (not even S&P). Cook lots of brown rice in rice cooker. Boil several bags of frozen peas and carrots. Once peas and carrots are boiled, drain well and mix with brown meat and finish cooking. Cool everything once cooked and mix 50% meat, peas and carrots and 50% brown rice in bowl. Pack tight into quart canning jars, lid and freeze. One deer makes about 50 quarts of dogfood. I then mix 50% homemade with 50% dry food. My dogs go ape chit for it.
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#968767 - 11/25/16 10:19 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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The hunt starts in the summer on the first scouting trip, and ends when the last package is stowed in the freezer...it all part of the process.

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#968770 - 11/25/16 12:09 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
I refuse to pay for a butcher to cut up a small deer. Its so simple to do yourself and I know exactly what I am getting back in return. We use just about every part of the animal. Good cuts go to roasts and steaks. Grind goes to burger (+ 25% bacon ends/ peices or beef suet - whatever). Liver and kidneys goes to Liverwurst. Cull fat for wrapping meatballs. Bones for stock. Scraps for homemade dogfood. The tail gets cut off, salted and saved for fly tying. Only the head, forearms and hide gets tossed. I've even thought to cut out the hooves for dog chews - but that is a super pain in the butt. I may build a hide scrape and drying rack for next year and brain tan my own hide (another pain in the butt). No butcher would take the time or care to do the job we do. It's important to us that the animal is fully utilized to our best abilities.

We are both softies when it comes to taking an animal's life. There is no cheering and high fives. It's very quiet and we say our peace to the animal in our own ways. I've been known to slip a last bite of grass in an animals mouth as a final meal (old world European style "contribution". I'm Prussian German and that's how Gramps taught us). I'd be damned to go through all of that and let a butcher rip the deer and me off. The deer deserves better. My dogs certainly thank us for the tasty meals.

Homemade Dogfood recipe: Take all scraps, fat and silver and course grind. One BT deer may give roughly 30 lbs of scrap meat. Brown grind without any seasonings of any kind (not even S&P). Cook lots of brown rice in rice cooker. Boil several bags of frozen peas and carrots. Once peas and carrots are boiled, drain well and mix with brown meat and finish cooking. Cool everything once cooked and mix 50% meat, peas and carrots and 50% brown rice in bowl. Pack tight into quart canning jars, lid and freeze. One deer makes about 50 quarts of dogfood. I then mix 50% homemade with 50% dry food. My dogs go ape chit for it.


Nice to see others who like to cut a wrap their own. So far this year I've processed 2 bears, 2 lambs, 4 deer, and 4 elk. 1 lamb left, and then maybe two more deer if myself and my youngest connect in the late season.

We made a [Bleeeeep!]-ton of sausage this year, from bulk ground breakfast and hot Italian, to summer sausage, salami, and bratwurst. Polish sausage (some with smoked cheddar crumbles in it) is on tap for this weekend. Grind for burger gets 10% beef fat added, and its free from a number of large chain grocery stores who generally just throw it away.

It isn't that hard, and other than sharp knives, the only true specialty tool you really need is a grinder if you want to do your own ground animal, as well as various types of sausage.
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#968771 - 11/25/16 12:17 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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And...I guarantee we save more meat than any commercial butcher does... it's just a matter of the time it takes to get it all.

The industrial sized slow cooker is making a couple of gallons of bone broth as we speak ;-)

Fish on...

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#973264 - 02/14/17 09:21 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Man...winter sucks without fishing around here. I've been bit by the bug hard and have Blacktail on the brain 24/7 now. Scoping, planning, prodding, scheming, prepping, reviewing, re-reviewing, spending, building et al. and I'm still behind schedule for next season. Make it stop.

Also, I need new knees. frown
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#973295 - 02/15/17 09:05 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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If you need those new knees, do it now and use BT as the push for rehab.

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#973378 - 02/16/17 07:53 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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I've done two fence repairs to my back yard in as many weeks. Damn blacktails! I hope to find an archer who isn't so much into trophy deer to come set up on my deck and pop one this fall. One hunter advised me to hang coyote pelts from the fence posts to keep the deer away from my yard. I don't have any coyote pelts, and if I did, Mrs. Salmo isn't keen on having them hang from the fence.

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#973383 - 02/16/17 08:50 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Salmo - I'll do it. Seriously. And per my lifetime personal policy, I do manual labor, yard and field work in exchange for the pleasure. I'm deathly allergic to cut hay, but I've filled up barns upon barns of that crap for the opportunity to hunt Pheasants and Geese in Nebraska. Mended fences and cut trails for Elk and Mulies in Colorado. Etc. Etc. Let me know what you need done and its done.

For your immediate BT problems, just buy some Predator or Coyote urine and pour some on every fence post you got. Do it once a month or after extended periods of rain.

I'm going to see if I can get one more season out of my knees and then get something done as soon as next season ends. Its too late this year and I'm not going to miss next fall. Poor Todd. The things I have planned for us just aren't right in the head.
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#973387 - 02/16/17 10:24 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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As I've said, pardner, I am old and lazy, not unable. I'm still in better shape than most of my contemporaries who are ten years younger, as you know, but that doesn't mean I still like climbing a fuckin mountain so I can carry a damn animal on my back for ten miles.

Not saying I won't do it, but I *thought* I had given that schit up years ago wink

Fish on...

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#973412 - 02/16/17 02:50 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Originally Posted By: NickD90
Man...winter sucks without fishing around here. I've been bit by the bug hard and have Blacktail on the brain 24/7 now. Scoping, planning, prodding, scheming, prepping, reviewing, re-reviewing, spending, building et al. and I'm still behind schedule for next season. Make it stop.

Also, I need new knees. frown




Have had my new knees for 5 years
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#973437 - 02/16/17 08:18 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Steep n' deep and up on the high. Don't worry Todd, it'll be FUN! wink

I don't even have a general doc, I just know my knees suck and I should probably have em' checked out. I broke the head off my Tibia back in 2002. Jacked the Meniscus at the same time too, but elected to not have surgery (just a leg cast fo 6 months). I popped that same knee badly 2 summers ago pushing a dead car. Never went to the doc for that one and let it ride. Mistake. The other knee is a bit better, but still awfully creaky. Arthritis in both. I beat the crap outta em' growing up and now I'm paying for it. The saying is true - getting old ain't for wimps.

Anyway...had a tasty BT rump roast, potatos, onions & carrots for dinner tonight. Deelish!
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#973546 - 02/18/17 09:32 PM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Posts: 3113
Loc: Bothell, Wa
Why do you think I lost 75#'s and hump a 50# pack 2-4 miles every evening after yoga?

It's called buying season Nick smile. I'm set for the backcountry so the only things I'm adding this year are a few more game cameras and a new fishing boat. I haven't decided on which one just yet but I'll be picking up an Alpaca Packraft shortly. I do miss fishing and paddling around alpine lakes seems like a good way to fill the void.

I'll be in touch when buying season rolls into hiking/scouting season.
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#973605 - 02/21/17 08:43 AM Re: Soon. Very, very soon.... [Re: NickD90]
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Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7260
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Yep - congrats BB on your weight loss. Keep at it. You looked really healthy last time we saw each other and I know you've worked hard to get into shape. I'm strongly considering starting Yoga to help with stretching, muscle recovery and general peace of mind. I'm getting prepped now for putting miles on boots ASAP.
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