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#967501 - 11/07/16 10:11 AM New info on salmon poisoning in dogs
bushbear Offline
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Thought the following article would be of interest for the dog owners on the 'site.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161103152130.htm

Discovery of new bacteria complicates problem with salmon poisoning in dogs

Date:
November 3, 2016
Source:
Oregon State University

Summary:
Scientists have discovered another bacterium that can cause symptoms similar to "salmon poisoning" in dogs - and may complicate the efforts of Pacific Northwest pet owners to keep their dogs protected and healthy.
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Researchers at Oregon State University have identified for the first time another bacterium that can cause symptoms similar to "salmon poisoning" in dogs -- and may complicate the efforts of Pacific Northwest pet owners to keep their dogs protected and healthy.
The Pacific Northwest, from northern California to central Washington, is the only region of the world in which dogs face this potentially deadly health threat. It's caused by a complicated life cycle that includes a common freshwater snail that harbors a fluke worm, and the fluke, in turn, carries the bacterium Neorickettsia helminthoeca. The bacterium is the actual cause of salmon poisoning.
The underlying problem is not new. Dogs that died after eating uncooked, infected salmon were first noted in the Astoria Journal in 1814, not long after Lewis and Clark visited the region.
The conventional wisdom, however, has been that dogs are usually immune to salmon poisoning after they have once been infected, treated with antibiotics and recovered -- giving pet owners at least some assurance that it's a problem they no longer need be concerned about.
The new discovery makes it clear the issue is not that simple.
In the infectious process that leads to salmon poisoning, the fluke is released from snails, which then infect salmon and other freshwater fishes. The life cycle is completed when a mammal eats an infected fish -- in this case, dogs get sick from eating raw or undercooked salmon. The possible occurrence of "salmon poisoning" is actually dictated by the geographic distribution of the snail.
Another bacterium called "SF agent," however, has been found for the first time in a salmonid fish anywhere in the world, researchers report in a recent study in Veterinary Parasitology. The fluke host for this bacterium is Stellanchasmus falcatus.
"SF agent can infect dogs that eat salmon or trout, and it can cause a mild fever in dogs and other symptoms that can resemble salmon poisoning," said Michael Kent, a professor of microbiology in the OSU College of Science and College of Veterinary Medicine, and co-author of the study. "It can also be treated with antibiotics, but may not offer immunity to dogs that could be later exposed to the actual salmon poisoning bacterium. A pet owner might believe their dog is protected, when it isn't."
The larval stages of the worm that carries Neorickettsia helminthoeca were first associated with the disease in 1911, and in 1950 the actual bacterium was confirmed as the cause of salmon poisoning. It's in the same bacterial family as SF agent -- meaning pet owners must now understand their dogs may face two related Neorickettsia pathogens -- but one causes only a mild illness, while the other can be deadly.
Veterinary doctors, Kent said, routinely have treated animals based on their clinical signs, because the eggs of the fluke may be hard to find in dog feces, and the bacterium is difficult to culture from dog blood. Left untreated, dogs with salmon poisoning can die in a week to 10 days, often from severe hemorrhaging and internal ruptures. The ultimate fatality rate can approach 90 percent of untreated cases.
The bottom line, he said, is that pet owners should not make any assumptions about whether or not their dogs may have immunity to salmon poisoning. Kent said he has received several reports from local veterinarians documenting dogs contracting salmon poisoning more than once.
With the new awareness that different bacteria can cause similar initial symptoms, pet owners should know that dogs displaying such symptoms may or may not have a serious health problem.
The fluke worm, but not the bacterium, can also infect humans. Humans do not contract salmon poisoning, but may develop a relatively mild gastrointestinal illness. Either freezing or cooking infected fish will kill the worms.
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Materials provided by Oregon State University. Note: Content may be edited for style and length.
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Journal Reference:
1. Stephen E. Greiman, Michael L. Kent, John Betts, Deborah Cochell, Tiah Sigler, Vasyl V. Tkach. Nanophyetus salmincola, vector of the salmon poisoning disease agent Neorickettsia helminthoeca, harbors a second pathogenic Neorickettsia species. Veterinary Parasitology, 2016; 229: 107 DOI: 10.1016/j.vetpar.2016.10.003

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#967504 - 11/07/16 11:30 AM Re: New info on salmon poisoning in dogs [Re: bushbear]
Carcassman Offline
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Registered: 11/21/07
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Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
One aspect of the "old" salmon poisoning, and maybe this too, is that salmon recovery to decent numbers and barrier removal both put lots of fish in areas where they haven't been for a while. I fielded a call from someone who had lost their dog to salmon poisoning that was likely due to eating a carcass distributed through a Nutrient Enhancement program. Their response was that if salmon had not been in the area recently and other uses developed then made we should put salmon there. Just another aspect of restoration that gets little thought.

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#967506 - 11/07/16 12:12 PM Re: New info on salmon poisoning in dogs [Re: bushbear]
cohoangler Offline
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Registered: 12/29/99
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Loc: Vancouver, Washington
Ok, but how can it be that in Alaska, many of the sled dogs are fed chum salmon almost all winter long? They seem to do quite well.

In fact, that's why chums are sometimes called "dog salmon". (Also because of the adult males appear to have canine teeth at maturity).

I don't disagree that some folks have lost their dogs to salmon poisoning, but I wonder why this is not a concern in Alaska with sled dogs.

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#967508 - 11/07/16 12:41 PM Re: New info on salmon poisoning in dogs [Re: cohoangler]
eugene1 Offline
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Registered: 09/17/10
Posts: 877
Loc: out there...
From the text... "The Pacific Northwest, from northern California to central Washington, is the only region of the world in which dogs face this potentially deadly health threat."

Maybe the snail is only in this area?

Originally Posted By: cohoangler
Ok, but how can it be that in Alaska, many of the sled dogs are fed chum salmon almost all winter long? They seem to do quite well.

In fact, that's why chums are sometimes called "dog salmon". (Also because of the adult males appear to have canine teeth at maturity).

I don't disagree that some folks have lost their dogs to salmon poisoning, but I wonder why this is not a concern in Alaska with sled dogs.




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#967509 - 11/07/16 12:56 PM Re: New info on salmon poisoning in dogs [Re: bushbear]
milt roe Offline
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Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 917
Loc: tacoma

Without the snail, you can't complete the life cycle. The snail does not occur in Alaska, so the dogs up there are not affected.

It has long been recognized that brook trout don't persist in streams with the same snail, presumably because they are not tolerant of the same fluke and associated bacteria. Widespread Brook Trout introductions in W WA were largely unsuccessful, except in a few locations (e.g. upper Tokul Creek, upper Fall Creek in the Willapa) where the snail is absent.

Biological interactions influencing fish are greatly under-appreciated. The Salish Sea study is finding strong correlations between the presence of some parasites and the poor marine survival in Puget Sound.

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#967510 - 11/07/16 01:24 PM Re: New info on salmon poisoning in dogs [Re: cohoangler]
5 * General Evo Offline
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Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6779
Originally Posted By: cohoangler
Ok, but how can it be that in Alaska, many of the sled dogs are fed chum salmon almost all winter long? They seem to do quite well.

In fact, that's why chums are sometimes called "dog salmon". (Also because of the adult males appear to have canine teeth at maturity).

I don't disagree that some folks have lost their dogs to salmon poisoning, but I wonder why this is not a concern in Alaska with sled dogs.





if they cook it the parasite dies... theres salmon in alot of dog food...
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#967513 - 11/07/16 02:04 PM Re: New info on salmon poisoning in dogs [Re: 5 * General Evo]
Rivrguy Offline
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The fluke can be carried by any fish around here. My Doby got it when i was young by snatching some sucker I had caught for bait to use for sea-run. It is just associated with salmon as they are the only ones usually out to be found.
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#967514 - 11/07/16 02:32 PM Re: New info on salmon poisoning in dogs [Re: bushbear]
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Salamander can also be affected..

You're dog can also be infected by eating the sh!t off something that ate infected fish, i.e., raccoons, ect.
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#968307 - 11/15/16 09:10 AM Re: New info on salmon poisoning in dogs [Re: bushbear]
Wild Chrome Offline
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Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 640
Loc: The Tailout
Thanks for posting, Brushbear. I don't know how common it is up in your area, but it's all around the beaver state. I personally know fishermen who's dogs have gotten the disease on the Deschutes, Sandy, Trask and Nestucca. I usually leave my pooch home. She prefers the couch anyway....
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