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#978751 - 07/30/17 11:19 AM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
Jake Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 06/24/00
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Loc: Des Moines
Seasons were announced months ago.
Moving because the fishing is too good is interesting.

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#978760 - 07/31/17 11:20 AM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
Piper
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What a great last day of "boat" fishing in area 9... we didn't target Kings but managed a small blackmouth anyway - then filled the limit with hatchery coho. All in all we had 18 fish on, landed 10, released 4, and all by 8 am. The best day of coho fishing we've had in area 9 this season...

Only 350 days till we can do it again... maybe... rolleyes


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#978773 - 07/31/17 07:37 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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Well done! You guys are dialed in.

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#978774 - 07/31/17 07:57 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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Nice job Piper.
There definately are a lot of coho around.

I don't own a boat, but I feel for you.
The no fishing from a boat ban is ridiculous. If they are worried about Chinook encounters, how about something like a 3 or 4 oz weight restriction rather then just closing things to all boat angling (including kayaks).

Sure some kings would be encountered, but for the most part that would keep folks up in the water column were the coho tend to hang out.
I think most folks would rather have restrictive fishing regulations over closed fishing.
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#978777 - 07/31/17 09:42 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: stonefish]
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Originally Posted By: stonefish

There definately are a lot of coho around.

I don't own a boat, but I feel for you.
The no fishing from a boat ban is ridiculous. If they are worried about Chinook encounters, how about something like a 3 or 4 oz weight restriction rather then just closing things to all boat angling (including kayaks).


or just close it to chinook like they have in the past, but keep it open to coho.

As we both know the last two seasons were set by WDFW "scientists" that do not fish Puget sound and only read reports on ocean conditions...

Closing puget sound in August for ocean coho is so fucving stupid, the only ocean coho in puget sound are net pen and early returning hatchery fish (Quil/Skok). The closures the last few years are nothing more than a fish grab by the tribes. I doubt, and I hope I'm wrong, we will ever see a full coho season in puget sound again... they know that they can give us a two day season and we will still buy a license to take advantage of the "opportunity"... just like the 4 days of shrimping and the 44 days of crabbing a year that we now have to pay extra for...

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#978980 - 08/10/17 11:42 AM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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Get ready for some bad news out of A-10. foul
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#978990 - 08/10/17 01:39 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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Registered: 06/29/00
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Loc: Kitsap County
Total catch as of August 10, 2017: 1,030

Based on this, seems it will stay open for Chinook till the 15th.

More details on the bad news .....don't leave us hanging.

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#978991 - 08/10/17 01:54 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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News is we are only at 48% of Quota, and there is only 5 days left in the season, without the possibility of extension.

I and a couple others argued that it should have opened with two fish based on last years catch rate & creel numbers, against a larger quota this year. Those voices in the charter industry wanted it left at 1 fish to ensure the seasons would go to the 15th so they could continue to book trips. I get it and support longer seasons, but MA 10 typically turns on later than North MA9, (it really got good in the last week) and now we will probably leave a lot of fish on the table. Elliot Bay fish do NOT count against MA10 Quota, and we will have a lot of anglers participating there over the weekend, so those fish will lessen impact on the quota.

I hate leaving a lot of fish and opportunity on the table when we have a short season and zero flexibility in the LOAF to adjust beyond 2 fish or extend the seasons.

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#978993 - 08/10/17 02:01 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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The bad news is that we are going to leave a LOT of A-10 fish on the table. Fish that we may not get back next year because politics. All because of an artificial and arbitrary 8.15 closing date. When the tribes don't hit their numbers, they get added dates. When we don't hit our numbers, we get closed on and any remaining fish get soaked up by the tribes. It's BS.

So many hatch and ESA Duwa Kings are going to get killed by nets. Sad.
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#979050 - 08/13/17 11:10 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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we absolutely killed the salmon in area 10 this weekend, literally... fished area 10 and managed to hook a few dozens shakers... we moved 3 times and couldn't get out of them... rolleyes

In comparison, if area 9 were open to boats, I would've killed 4 adult hatchery coho, released 1 native coho and a shaker... fewer fish killed and more hatchery fish removed from the gene pool...

makes you wonder if anyone in the WDFW actually fishes... on the bright side, I think I have the new state record for Saltwater kokanee...

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#979069 - 08/15/17 08:43 AM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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Registered: 06/29/00
Posts: 439
Loc: Kitsap County
Last afternoon of king fishing for me yesterday. Fished in the usual spots with the crowds, pretty slow. Heading home, spotted some birds working a spot I rarely fish, pulled in and experienced perhaps the hottest king bite I've ever seen short of the WCVI area. Could not keep the gear in the water. Some really nice high finners, and one last hatch for the freezer.

Definitely gonna be some good A-10 king fishing in the next couple of weeks we will not experience frown.

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#979138 - 08/21/17 06:17 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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Heard final number was over 2,300 for A10. Well over quota.

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#979143 - 08/21/17 09:21 PM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
Piper
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they need to shut it down earlier next year... or just not open it at all since we are so far over quota this year rolleyes

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#979149 - 08/22/17 08:34 AM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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Registered: 04/20/09
Posts: 1269
Loc: WaRshington
"Over quota" is a misnomer this season. I think we are sitting on one of the best hatchery Chinook escapements to Puget Sound that we have seen in quite some years. We have no mechanism for in-season adjustments because we just "agree" to whatever magic number they come up with before we have seen any fish....

Some of the tribes are seeing their "best years on record" and all they have to do to keep fishing is submit an in-season updated model, and adjust their "quota" up up and up.

Pretty sad state of affairs. The sound is silly with Kings right now and we're all twiddling our thumbs.

Can't even fish pinks and silvers North of Edmonds....

Sad.
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#979151 - 08/22/17 08:58 AM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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Registered: 06/29/00
Posts: 439
Loc: Kitsap County
" think we are sitting on one of the best hatchery Chinook escapements to Puget Sound that we have seen in quite some years."

I have to agree with Ugly on this one. Some of the best summer Chinook fishing I've ever seen in A-10 this year. Been running shallow for coho since the closure and still can't avoid em. Would be nice to see a methodology to have an updated model like the tribes have. Need the same approach for crab, poorest year I've seen in over 20...rec crab should be closed in A-10.

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#979448 - 09/03/17 08:59 AM Re: Sunday's King opener in MA 9-10 [Re: RogueFanatic]
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So glad to be playing catch and release with nice hatchery kings. It just warms my heart to know that I'm doing all I can to help support our local casino buffets. I'm sure Tina and her old college friends will be SUPER appreciative of their tasty cedar planked King and white wine spritzers. C'mon triple cherries! Momma needs a new Coach handbag!
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