#993701 - 09/17/18 09:24 PM
FISA Declasification
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#993702 - 09/17/18 09:40 PM
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you are about to see how corrupt the government is...
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#993703 - 09/17/18 09:44 PM
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I wonder what excuses will be to try and justify what they did.
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#993704 - 09/17/18 10:54 PM
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More abuse of power and obstruction of justice from the president.
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#993709 - 09/18/18 06:42 AM
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"More abuse of power and obstruction of justice from the president."
Funny I don't see how transparency is abuse of power and obstruction, he just needs to declassify it all, but that likely could compromise Hubbers and the indictments.
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#993716 - 09/18/18 08:57 AM
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Cherry picking information is not only not "transparency", it's exactly the opposite...obfuscation.
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#993742 - 09/18/18 03:05 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Cherry picking information is not only not "transparency", it's exactly the opposite...obfuscation. LOL Only in Todd's little world could declassifying and releasing relevant information be considered "cherry picking". Hank seems unfamiliar with the term cherry picking.
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#993750 - 09/18/18 05:23 PM
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Sunlight is the best disinfectant, so I'm all for seeing less black bars hiding information regarding our duly elected officials. Whatever is below these black bars - good or bad, be that as it may, is OUR information. As long as the info truly does not affect National Security - a high bar that needs to be proven if possible, then let's see it all...political parties be damned. Just my $0.02.
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#993753 - 09/18/18 06:16 PM
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there should be Declassification of the total document not just parts
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#993754 - 09/18/18 06:34 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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It seems pretty partisan to release part of the documents. Also seems like a desperate move.
Reek knows he's in trouble.
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#993757 - 09/18/18 07:07 PM
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Dick Nipples
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there should be Declassification of the total document not just parts This...not just the cherry picked parts that Trump's...ahem..."legal team"...thinks will help him. Fish on... Todd
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#993760 - 09/18/18 08:44 PM
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Lord of the Chums
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While they're at it, release the JFK files, and the Roswell files... All of them....
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#993761 - 09/18/18 08:53 PM
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there should be Declassification of the total document not just parts This...not just the cherry picked parts that Trump's...ahem..."legal team"...thinks will help him. Fish on... Todd + 1 agree.
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#993765 - 09/18/18 09:29 PM
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Q said that Rosenstein will not release the documents as Trump ordered and will be fired as a result. Mueller works for Rosenstein so you know where this is headed, not to mention the content of the declassified documents are bound to be not good for some individuals, because this move by POTUS has triggered an all out assault.
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#993766 - 09/18/18 09:53 PM
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This is unprecendented. There could be violations of the Privacy Act.
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#993769 - 09/19/18 06:43 AM
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"This is unprecendented. There could be violations of the Privacy Act."
Steelheadman,
Executive Order 13526 Sec 1.7 "Classification Prohibitions and Limitations. (a) In no case shall information be classified, continue to be maintained as classified, or fail to be declassified in order to: (1) conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error; (2) prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency; (3) restrain competition; or (4) prevent or delay the release of information that does not require protection in the interest of the national security."
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#993806 - 09/19/18 03:07 PM
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Here is what transparency looks like: https://www.npr.org/2018/09/18/648722358...ils-some-donorsSupreme Court Orders Disclosure For Dark Money, As New Report Unveils Some Donors September 18, 20185:01 PM ET Heard on All Things Considered PETER OVERBY Chief Justice John G. Roberts had blocked a lower court order that would have required politically active nonprofits to disclose their donors. But on Tuesday the full Supreme Court overturned his stay. The Supreme Court on Tuesday insisted that many donations to predominantly conservative political nonprofit groups — what's often called dark money — be disclosed, seven weeks ahead of the 2018 midterm elections. The ruling closes, at least for now, a loophole that has allowed wealthy donors to finance aggressive ads while staying anonymous. Crafted by the Federal Election Commission nearly 40 years ago, the loophole flourished after the 2010 Citizens United ruling. The court set aside an order issued by Chief Justice John Roberts on Saturday. The social welfare group Crossroads GPS, a defendant in the lawsuit, had fought to stall disclosure while it prepares to appeal. It failed in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals and then appealed to the Supreme Court. The disclosure requirement is expected to apply to explicitly political ads by nonprofit groups for the remaining weeks of the campaign season. The decisions came in a 2016 lawsuit against Crossroads and the FEC, by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the federal district court in Washington, D.C., last month ruled in CREW's favor. She gave the FEC 45 days to replace the regulation, which it didn't do. CREW's executive director, Noah Bookbinder, said the Supreme Court ruling "is going to affect spending in the 2018 elections. Groups that run these kinds of ads — ads that tell you to vote for or against another candidate — are going to have to disclose their contributors, and that is incredibly important." The Supreme Court's decision comes less than a week after a new research report by the government reform group Issue One, which puts some dollar amounts on what these unreported donors are giving. The report, which took a year of research, finds that the top 15 politically active nonprofits raised and spent more than $600 million on campaigns between 2010, when Citizens United boosted secret fundraising, and 2016. The secret giving is made possible by a regulatory loophole at the FEC. The groups, usually organized as 501(c)(4) social welfare organizations or 501(c)(6) business associations, don't register as political committees with the commission. With the loophole, the FEC wants donor disclosure only when a donor earmarks the money for specific ads. The top four spenders identified by Issue One are the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the mainstream conservative Crossroads GPS, the Koch network's Americans for Prosperity and the National Rifle Association. Issue One says that collectively, the four groups pumped at least $357 million into elections between 2010 and 2016. "Opaque organizations are using contributions from opaque donors and secretly funding election campaigns and ads that are urging viewers to vote for or against candidates," said Michael Beckel, research manager at Issue One. "And it remains very difficult to track back the true sources of dark money groups." Meanwhile, Americans for Prosperity has launched AFP Action — a superPAC that will regularly report its donors to the FEC, sidestepping the disclosure controversy. ************* Fish on... Todd
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#993811 - 09/19/18 03:56 PM
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Dick Nipples
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Benghazi!
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#993830 - 09/19/18 09:59 PM
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This is unprecendented. There could be violations of the Privacy Act. Unprecedented? Violations of the Privacy Act? Leadheadman is such a dumfuk. Washington Post: The Obama administration on Wednesday released a previously classified order that directed Verizon Communications to turn over a vast number of Americans' phone records. Hey stupid stick to the subject of the FISA warrants that were approved by a judge regarding national security. You are really adapt at comparing apples to oranges.
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#993832 - 09/19/18 10:16 PM
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Republicans try to throw Bruce Ohr under the bus for what they initiated, Another Trump false claim on Steele Dossier
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#993842 - 09/20/18 06:57 AM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Republicans hate the Steele dossier because those retards started the wheels turning on it, and then it turned out that all the dirt they dug up was on them and Fat Nixon.
lol
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#993846 - 09/20/18 08:20 AM
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Dick Nipples
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Republicans hate the Steele dossier because those retards started the wheels turning on it, and then it turned out that all the dirt they dug up was on them and Fat Nixon.
lol Benghazi! Fish on... Todd
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#993847 - 09/20/18 08:23 AM
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you are the literal definition of the word sheep...
you believe everything you are told, just like a good little sheep...
i dare you, matter of fact, ill pay you, to talk ill of the people that were there, to their face... bet you would get your head kicked in by one of the military guys that were there...
nah you'd just rather ride Obama and HIllarys dick like a good little sheep....
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#993849 - 09/20/18 08:32 AM
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that attorneys office was Perkins Coie, headquartered in Seattle...
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#993851 - 09/20/18 10:49 AM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Republicans hate the Steele dossier because those retards started the wheels turning on it, and then it turned out that all the dirt they dug up was on them and Fat Nixon.
lol Yeah, no. The Washington Free Beacon hired Fusion GPS to do opposition research on Donny Two Scoops and other GOP candidates between the fall of 2015 and the spring of 2016. Sometime after that Mark Elias, an attorney for the Stumbles campaign and the DNC hired Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS then hired Steele and he came up with his Trump/Russia Dossier. BTW, Steele testified in British court that there wasn't much chance the dossier was accurate, so there's that. Disagree.
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#993856 - 09/20/18 01:46 PM
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Republicans hate the Steele dossier because those retards started the wheels turning on it, and then it turned out that all the dirt they dug up was on them and Fat Nixon.
lol Yeah, no. The Washington Free Beacon hired Fusion GPS to do opposition research on Donny Two Scoops and other GOP candidates between the fall of 2015 and the spring of 2016. Sometime after that Mark Elias, an attorney for the Stumbles campaign and the DNC hired Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS then hired Steele and he came up with his Trump/Russia Dossier. BTW, Steele testified in British court that there wasn't much chance the dossier was accurate, so there's that. Disagree. Shut the front door. ! :>)
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#993891 - 09/21/18 12:18 PM
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Dick Nipples
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And...the documents aren't going to be declassified.
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#993893 - 09/21/18 12:49 PM
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/r...sxKJ?ocid=ientpLike I said Rosenstein is done, this would not be hitting the news if he wasn't ready to be fired all related to Trumps FISA Declass, the wheels are falling off. Meuller will be quickly following Rosenstein, in being bounced out the front door of the Justice Department, military tribunals shortly. "Q said that Rosenstein will not release the documents as Trump ordered and will be fired as a result. Mueller works for Rosenstein so you know where this is headed, not to mention the content of the declassified documents are bound to be not good for some individuals, because this move by POTUS has triggered an all out assault."
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#993897 - 09/21/18 01:46 PM
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/r...sxKJ?ocid=ientpLike I said Rosenstein is done, this would not be hitting the news if he wasn't ready to be fired all related to Trumps FISA Declass, the wheels are falling off. Meuller will be quickly following Rosenstein, in being bounced out the front door of the Justice Department, military tribunals shortly. "Q said that Rosenstein will not release the documents as Trump ordered and will be fired as a result. Mueller works for Rosenstein so you know where this is headed, not to mention the content of the declassified documents are bound to be not good for some individuals, because this move by POTUS has triggered an all out assault." Jesus, dood...slow down. Don't blow your entire whacknut so fast. You gotta spread that thing out. Fish on... Todd
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#993902 - 09/22/18 12:32 AM
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looks like there must be something in them sense donnie isn't going to release them
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#993903 - 09/22/18 04:38 AM
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looks like there must be something in them sense donnie isn't going to release them No, this shows how Trump is right and they are wrong. Dont you get it? 
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#993904 - 09/22/18 01:58 PM
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looks like there must be something in them sense donnie isn't going to release them To quote Danny Shelton: "Solid work."
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