#997383 - 11/24/18 07:46 AM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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There is one aspect of this whole thing that, from the start, has seemed odd to me. These whales are predators, and by all accounts intelligent ones at that. I find it hard to believe they would limit themselves to a single food source.
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#997392 - 11/24/18 03:03 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
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Evolution has split the ancestral Killer Whales into different food consumers. The transients are predators on mammals, and maybe Great White Sharks. The residents eat fish. That was how they split up the food resources.
It is likely that these actually represent different species of whale.
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#998653 - 12/13/18 03:25 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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"Of course there’s far, far more to Inslee’s proposed budget, including proposed fishing and hunting license fee increases."
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#998812 - 12/16/18 05:34 AM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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Carcass
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E- Message sent to Gov. Inslee on WA State Gov. Inslee website.
I noticed on your Orca whale interview on channel 13 you have "a one-two punch" submitted to the leg. for the upcoming session of 1) $1.1 billion proposal 2) some undisclosed proposal about climate change both to help the Orcas.
Regarding proposal (2) I certainly hope you are not proposing a similar tax that the people of Washington State voted against in 36 out of 39 counties just 5 weeks ago. If our representatives really represent their constituents the issue of carbon like tax should have been put to bed with the state vote and not some end around stunt in the legislature.
Shame on you!
A tax for the environment--whatever you want to call it should be considered a no deal according to our recent state vote.
Thank you,
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#998819 - 12/16/18 12:24 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
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"Of course there’s far, far more to Inslee’s proposed budget, including proposed fishing and hunting license fee increases."
Under the banner of Save the Whale portion of the budget there is $117MM for initiating conversion of the propulsion systems on two ferries and building two new ones. Not to say that those aren't valid and necessary but under the Orca recovery effort? Really??
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#998820 - 12/16/18 12:34 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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E- Message sent to Gov. Inslee on WA State Gov. Inslee website.
I noticed on your Orca whale interview on channel 13 you have "a one-two punch" submitted to the leg. for the upcoming session of 1) $1.1 billion proposal 2) some undisclosed proposal about climate change both to help the Orcas.
Regarding proposal (2) I certainly hope you are not proposing a similar tax that the people of Washington State voted against in 36 out of 39 counties just 5 weeks ago. If our representatives really represent their constituents the issue of carbon like tax should have been put to bed with the state vote and not some end around stunt in the legislature.
Shame on you!
A tax for the environment--whatever you want to call it should be considered a no deal according to our recent state vote.
Thank you, As I tried to explain before the last election, the carbon tax is coming regardless. The initiative was a question on who should pay for it, the polluters or the taxpayers. The people of Washington have spoken. They want the taxpayers and people who don’t drive to pay for fixing the environment. What did you think would happen in a state run by Democrats?
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#998822 - 12/16/18 01:23 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
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How do you expect the polluters to pay for pollution? If it a government (sewage plant) they charge the users. If it is a business, it is a cost that passed on just like a tariff, shipping costs, and so on. The people who use the product or who benefit will pay. What other option are you proposing?
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#999247 - 12/21/18 05:40 AM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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Carcass
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E- Message sent to Gov. Inslee on WA State Gov. Inslee website.
I noticed on your Orca whale interview on channel 13 you have "a one-two punch" submitted to the leg. for the upcoming session of 1) $1.1 billion proposal 2) some undisclosed proposal about climate change both to help the Orcas.
Regarding proposal (2) I certainly hope you are not proposing a similar tax that the people of Washington State voted against in 36 out of 39 counties just 5 weeks ago. If our representatives really represent their constituents the issue of carbon like tax should have been put to bed with the state vote and not some end around stunt in the legislature.
Shame on you!
A tax for the environment--whatever you want to call it should be considered a no deal according to our recent state vote.
Thank you,
CC above to my three state reps. since I have called the governor and the legislative offices without getting answers of the second punch governor proposal regarding the climate change. With note: If a carbon or similar environmental tax comes into play in the upcoming session by the Governors proposals please vote no accordingly with the Snohomish County results of 60.73%-39.27% against I-1631in recent 2018 November election
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#999257 - 12/21/18 08:13 AM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/05/04
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How do you expect the polluters to pay for pollution? If it a government (sewage plant) they charge the users. If it is a business, it is a cost that passed on just like a tariff, shipping costs, and so on. The people who use the product or who benefit will pay. What other option are you proposing? I propose that any and all change in our governance be well thought out, slow and deliberate. I do not consider a carbon tax tacked on to reactionary feel good legislation to 'save the South Sound Orca' to meet any of my aforementioned parameters. And adding Ferry system funds into the mix supports my view. In fact it just goes to show that our government will use any excuse as a reason to raise taxes and increase the size and scope of Government. I do not consider any of those to be positive outcomes.
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#1000219 - 01/03/19 03:39 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
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Losing two more, including a breeding-age female, to starvation is not the road to recovery. But it will probably embolden the voices to shut down whale watching and such.
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#1000223 - 01/03/19 03:56 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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The Tide changed
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The big blind spot in all of the Orca recovery is meaningful commercial harvest reform within the entirety salish sea.... On both Salmon and forage fish. Case in point, there was a massive fishery on Chum this year in area 9 and 10, like every year. Right alongside and amongst the SRKW populations, that were in the sound chasing their seasonal forage opportunity of Chum for well over a month I watched their behavior from shore and sea, they were hunting all over the sound looking for prey. It isnt just a Chinook problem people!
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#1000235 - 01/03/19 06:14 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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Shooting Instructor for hire
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Losing two more, including a breeding-age female, to starvation is not the road to recovery. But it will probably embolden the voices to shut down whale watching and such.
Or more. Personally, I'd like the Clipper taken a look at. I can't imagine the sound those boats put into the water is healthy for anything. I could be wrong though - IDK.
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#1000246 - 01/03/19 08:20 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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The Tide changed
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Ask anyone who dives in puget sound how loud the Clipper and Ferries are. I did my certification dives off Mukilteo and the sound of the ferry is totally deafening while its idleing into the dock...let alone underway. Imo. Its money well spent to drop the acoustic signatures of the ferries.
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#1000642 - 01/09/19 06:25 AM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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Carcass
Registered: 11/30/09
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E- Message sent to Gov. Inslee on WA State Gov. Inslee website.
I noticed on your Orca whale interview on channel 13 you have "a one-two punch" submitted to the leg. for the upcoming session of 1) $1.1 billion proposal 2) some undisclosed proposal about climate change both to help the Orcas.
Regarding proposal (2) I certainly hope you are not proposing a similar tax that the people of Washington State voted against in 36 out of 39 counties just 5 weeks ago. If our representatives really represent their constituents the issue of carbon like tax should have been put to bed with the state vote and not some end around stunt in the legislature.
Shame on you!
A tax for the environment--whatever you want to call it should be considered a no deal according to our recent state vote.
Thank you,
Another e-message to the governor and CC’d to my 38th district reps. With a note to not vote for the governor’s proposal of an environmental tax in accordance with the Snohomish County voters desire with results of 60.73%-39.27% against I-1631 in recent 2018 November election. Governor Inslee, I read that you may run for president which hopefully you do. After the defeat of I-1631 carbon tax on the ballot that failed in 36 of the 39 counties in the state of Washington, now I see on your channel 13 interview you are introducing to the state legislature a 1-2 punch which sounds like another environmental tax before I-1631 has even cooled from the recent election defeat. I don’t know why you would think that you would get different results across the U.S. than the Washington state county results when taking your unpopular socialistic New World Order agenda on the road for your presidency. You do realize the French working class is now into their eighth week of rioting due to the bottomless pit of taxes that includes environmental/carbon tax leaving them penniless before the end of the month for food, gas, and discretionary spending just 4 short years after the 2014 inception of the seemingly never ending increases of the environmental/carbon tax. Their fuel price alone reflects a tacked on 60% of taxes. This and more behind the French riots in the link below from Euro news since the US main stream media (MSM) has either done a poor job covering this story or have done a really good job of burying it. https://www.euronews.com/2018/11/16/what...uronews-answersI believe that we should learn from others mistakes like the French instead of jumping head first into this bottomless money pit and expecting different results. Thank you,
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#1000931 - 01/13/19 04:12 AM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
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[url=http://www.cbbulletin.com/441990.aspx][/url] Groups Give NOAA 60-Day Notice To Consider Impact Of Salmon Fisheries On Orcas
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2019 (PST) Two conservation groups notified the U.S. Department of Commerce and NOAA Fisheries of their intention to sue saying that their “mismanagement” of West Coast fisheries is harming southern resident killer whales in Puget Sound...
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#1000933 - 01/13/19 08:32 AM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
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Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
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Finally. The Third-Party Hammer is dropping.
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#1000939 - 01/13/19 10:41 AM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
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Finally. The Third-Party Hammer is dropping. Yup, this should be interesting. Has WFC finally met the immovable object? Will it become mired in the complexity of managing salmonids on an international basis??
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#1000954 - 01/13/19 07:33 PM
Re: SRKW's... the TRUTH!
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/21/07
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That lawsuit is the only way WA Chinook and SRKW's have a ghost of a chance.
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