#573151 - 01/16/10 07:44 AM
Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Commerce Secretary Gary Locke has declared a fishery disaster because of low Chinook salmon returns along Alaska's Yukon River. Locke made the announcement Friday during an appearance in Anchorage after informing Alaska Gov. Sean Parnell in a phone call. Locke said the 2008 commercial Chinook salmon harvest was 89 percent below the five-year average. There was no commercial fishery allowed in 2009 because of low returns. He says he knows Alaska fishermen and their families are struggling. The declaration does not open up federal money but could pave the way for congressional appropriations. U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke declared a commercial fishing disaster for Yukon River king salmon Friday following two years of poor runs, fishing restrictions and bans. ..... http://www.webcenter11.com/news/state/st...PQ.cspx?rss=201ALASKA: Officials praise commerce secretary for paving way for relief funds. ...... http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/1095790.html
Edited by Phoenix77 (01/16/10 07:50 AM)
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#573333 - 01/17/10 01:04 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
[Re: Phoenix77]
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Wow, an article that actually used the word by-catch. In an Alaskan newspaper no less. I'm shocked but impressed. Maybe the world is waking up to the tremendous waste that is involved with commercial by-catch around the globe. It's ignored and not factored in until it affects a river near you. I had this report on global commercial by-catch on another thread awhile back, but here is the link again if you missed it.It is estimated that between 35,800,000,000 - 79,000,000,000 lbs of fish are wasted annually by commercial by-catch. http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/t4890e/T4890E00.htm#TOC The authors estimate that between 17.9 and 39.5 million tons (average 27.0 million) of fish are discarded each year in commercial fisheries. These estimates are based on a review of over 800 papers. The highest quantities of discards are from the Northwest Pacific. Lucky Louie
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#573366 - 01/17/10 02:41 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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#573434 - 01/17/10 08:35 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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Boater, That's why you are paid the big bucks. SBD, would have had the sea lions eating the Yukon River fish as an appetizer and the other 70 Billion lbs. of missing fish as the main course.
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#573435 - 01/17/10 08:48 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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clown flocker
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Hmm I always thought Bering Sea Pollock was a Pelagic Fishery here they have listed as bottom trawl?
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#573504 - 01/18/10 09:02 AM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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Juvenille at Sea
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We used both mid water and bottom gear depending on where the fish were.The summer seasons usually left us dragging on the bottom blindly scratching for fish.Last I knew it was ilegal to drag bottom for pollack.Took away our rock gear and such.All that really meant was that we spent a lot more time sewing up our mid water gear.
The declaration -- requested by Gov. Sean Parnell and others -- does not automatically send money to communities hammered by the loss of chinook salmon to eat and sell.
But in the past, such declarations have meant federal money for research, infrastructure or payments to fishermen. Parnell's office said it could also fund training programs and other regional projects.
This ,in my humble opinion, is the incentive for our local governments to manage our fisheries the way they do.There is getting to be little mini economies following these federal decisions around.
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#573514 - 01/18/10 10:47 AM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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I should have looked at the dates, its 20 years old..Fishmeal was just starting along with the Asian Fish Farms, to much money in meal now to be tossing it over. http://www.fis.com/fis/worldnews/worldne...;ndb=1&df=0
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#573541 - 01/18/10 01:01 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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Reverend Tarpones
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Kevin: Did you skip logic class at the same time you skipped spelling?
You say there was an across the board ocean collapse, then tell us we are looking at a record Columbia River chinook return.
In fact, the pollack fishery has taken as many as 60,000 Yukon River chinook per year in recent years. I suspect that could have an effect.
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#573564 - 01/18/10 02:38 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
[Re: SBD]
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I should have looked at the dates, its 20 years old..Fishmeal was just starting along with the Asian Fish Farms, to much money in meal now to be tossing it over. The FAO report of 1994 was and is the most comprehensive report of by-catch on a global platform that I can find to date, (maybe somebody can help out). There are recent individual and Country fishery reports available with by-catch numbers. In all fairness,since this report came out new techniques, gear, and BRD's have contributed to dropping by-catch waste numbers, but #'s still obscene. As the years have passed , new questions need to be addressed that are associated with by-catch and that would be: "Fishery by-catch, especially discarded by-catch, is a serious problem in the world's oceans. Not only are the stocks of discarded species affected, but entire trophic webs and habitats may be disrupted at the ecosystem level". Received 23 Aug 2005 Accepted 13 Oct 2005
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#573566 - 01/18/10 02:48 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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Kevin:
I really don’t know why I bother, except many who read this will be capable of grasping simple concepts. Not every river is the same. If you take a huge number of fish from one river and not other rivers will see different results.
You came close to understanding when you mentioned the Sacramento. (About as close as you can get to spelling Pollack correctly apparently.) From reports I have read the Pollack fishery took a disproportionally high percentage of Yukon chinook. That would, IMHO adversely effect Yukon stocks.
No doubt there are myriad issues affecting every fishery, but to ignore over harvest is simply folly.
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#573570 - 01/18/10 02:58 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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Kevin:
I really don’t know why I bother, except many who read this will be capable of grasping simple concepts. Not every river is the same. If you take a huge number of fish from one river and not other rivers will see different results.
You came close to understanding when you mentioned the Sacramento. (About as close as you can get to spelling Pollack correctly apparently.) From reports I have read the Pollack fishery took a disproportionally high percentage of Yukon chinook. That would, IMHO adversely effect Yukon stocks.
No doubt there are myriad issues affecting every fishery, but to ignore over harvest is simply folly. Actually Dave, since you are into correcting things, the proper spelling is "Pollock" but that's a mute point. You evidently were skipping spelling as well.
Edited by kevin lund (01/18/10 03:01 PM)
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#573573 - 01/18/10 03:03 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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Knock yourselves out guys, it looks like another "Tragedy of the Commons" to me. http://www.sf.adfg.state.ak.us/FedAidpdfs/Sp09-26.pdf
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#573574 - 01/18/10 03:03 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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River Nutrients
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No doubt there are myriad issues affecting every fishery, but to ignore over harvest is simply folly.
My really big question about harvest reform as a recovery tool is what about all the species that are ramping down, but don't appear as bycatch? Sea run cutthroat, chum salmon and lamprey ells come to mind. These species are declining, yet they don't end up as bycatch, why?
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#573586 - 01/18/10 03:32 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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My really big question about harvest reform as a recovery tool is what about all the species that are ramping down, but don't appear as bycatch? Sea run cutthroat, chum salmon and lamprey ells come to mind. These species are declining, yet they don't end up as bycatch, why?
"Fishery by-catch, especially discarded by-catch, is a serious problem in the world's oceans. Not only are the stocks of discarded species affected, but entire trophic webs and habitats may be disrupted at the ecosystem level". This could be in itself or probably in conjunction with any myraid of other problems affecting fish returns.
Edited by Lucky Louie (01/18/10 03:49 PM)
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#573592 - 01/18/10 04:17 PM
Re: Feds declare fisheries disaster for Yukon River
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Reverend Tarpones
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Kevin:
At least you learned to spell "poluck" sic. BTW thanks for the correction. I was wrong, but I will learn from it. You on the other hand were repeatedly corrected on previous comment where you misspelled the word, but apparently did not learn from it. Now go look up mute point, as you screwed that up too.
Then go look up the statistics on the rivers of origin of Alaska Pollock fishery bycatch. Then go look up migratory patterns of southern Oregon and California salmonids vs. those from more northern climes. Once you have done all that you may have a somewhat better understanding of the issue. Not that a lack of understanding has ever kept you from posting.
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