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#630913 - 10/27/10 10:09 PM Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed
Eddie L Offline
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Registered: 02/08/00
Posts: 172
Loc: Seattle,Wa
I was at Seacrest boat launch close to 5 pm and was watching the Muckashoots out in Elliott Bay gillneting chums, and around 5pm a commercial purse seiner boat comes in and anchors up within 100 yards of the boat launch and I could see them watching the Mucks pulling their nets through binoculars. You could see the large pile of nets on the boat and aluminum boat tied up to the back. This picture was taken on my cell phone camera and getting alittle dark so it's not real clear.

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#630919 - 10/27/10 10:19 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Eddie L]
Moravec Offline


Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 1045
Loc: Snoqualmie WA/Cordova AK
Timewarp:10 years from now..."Where did our massive chum run go???"


Edited by moravec (10/27/10 10:19 PM)
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#630923 - 10/27/10 10:30 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Moravec]
oneeyedgoat Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 11/03/06
Posts: 159
Loc: maple valley
Sad day when you can't even go and hook a few chums.
And sadly enough it looks like its comeing soon..

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#630930 - 10/27/10 11:04 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: oneeyedgoat]
Rotten Chum Offline
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Registered: 10/01/08
Posts: 715
Loc: Snoho County
No worries...factual scientific data will save us from any chum run being decimated...plus there's nowhere for those fish to spawn anyway so net the piss out of em. And then close the sporties down...brilliant!
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#630934 - 10/27/10 11:25 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Rotten Chum]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I thought purse seines were good for fish and sportfishing?

Fish on...

Todd
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#630935 - 10/27/10 11:26 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Eddie L]
tydy Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 09/08/10
Posts: 131
Loc: Snohomish.,Wa.
Been working in west seattle for the last 2 months on a kitchen remodel and watching the "natives" gillnetting the river every which way but loose. I know they are "entitled" to these fish(kings, coho and now chums) but give me a break!!! Both sides of the container docks, Net on floats in the middle, nets tied off old cannery pilings and even saw a couple casting buzz bombs waiting for their nets to fill!! Now they want to seine the bay too! Wow, if Puget Sound isn't a barren waste land now, it won't survive much longer. The state of wash. and the wdfw shame on you and shame on Christine Gregoire for ignoring our and I repeat all of our resources. What little glimmer of hope this years chinook run gave us will soon fade away. It's now only a matter of time. We need to stand up now and protest this decimation of our resources and quit being a bunch of namby pamby bitchers. If you are reading this and are not a member of cca, Join now. we must organize now or all will be lost in our lifetime.

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#630957 - 10/28/10 12:45 AM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Rotten Chum]
Doctor Rick Offline
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Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 1566
Loc: Sequim
Originally Posted By: Rotten Chum
No worries...factual scientific data will save us from any chum run being decimated...plus there's nowhere for those fish to spawn anyway so net the piss out of em. And then close the sporties down...brilliant!


Makes me cry.

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#630961 - 10/28/10 12:49 AM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Todd]
Doctor Rick Offline
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Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 1566
Loc: Sequim
Originally Posted By: Todd
I thought purse seines were good for fish and sportfishing?

Fish on...

Todd


My Brother, I don't think purse seines are the issue here.

Very


Edited by Doctor Rick (10/28/10 12:49 AM)

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#630965 - 10/28/10 01:06 AM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Todd]
stlhdr1 Offline
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Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6424
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: Todd
I thought purse seines were good for fish and sportfishing?

Fish on...

Todd


Holy Jesus...... Is that the light I'm seeing?

Good news is they can be SELECTIVE and let the mis-clip/natives go some day!!

Keith


Edited by stlhdr1 (10/28/10 01:08 AM)
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#630998 - 10/28/10 10:43 AM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: ]
Rotten Chum Offline
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Registered: 10/01/08
Posts: 715
Loc: Snoho County
Your a f'n troll...I loved how you and ondarvr were exchanging words the other day and you kept referring to the fact that the internet is basically a means of communication that "doesn't matter". If it doesn't matter to you...great that's fine...I just can't figure out why when you see an opening to become an a$$hole you jump on it like you really are one...oh wait...you are one.
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#631030 - 10/28/10 02:19 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: ]
Audball Offline
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Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 341
Loc: Renton, WA
Grampa,
Tell us another story about the fish that used to swim up the rivers.....
How come nobody did anything to keep them from being wiped out?....
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#631094 - 10/28/10 04:39 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: ]
Divers Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/21/99
Posts: 958
Loc: Seattle
The fish from the seiners are being unloaded into totes , and being delivered to processing plants.

Each box truck holds 12 double totes averaging 8-15K


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#631095 - 10/28/10 04:44 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Divers]
Driftfishnw Offline
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Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2026
Was heading back from lunch with Jtard and counted 5 out in the bay seinering it up...

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#631097 - 10/28/10 04:56 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Driftfishnw]
Lucky Louie Offline
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Registered: 11/30/09
Posts: 2286
We as a society will have to determine if current and past management schemes, and indiscriminate nonselective commercial fishing is acceptable or attempt to change it in one form or another.

I’m a very patient person and still waiting for improved fishing in Puget Sound for over 50 plus years and getting more than a little frustrated with what appears as a never ending downward spiral in quality of fishing opportunity. Whether it be halibut, ling cod, shrimp, crab, rock fish, steelhead, or salmon to name a few.

Under current ways of management, is it going to get better in the next 50 years of the same o same o?

It appears laws need to be changed, to help management do their job properly.
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#631101 - 10/28/10 05:11 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Lucky Louie]
cohobankie Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 09/07/09
Posts: 194
There was also a big processor next to Shilshole on Tuesday and smaller boats tied of unloading their riches. How many Steelies you think they have netted now?

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#631123 - 10/28/10 05:50 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: cohobankie]
Rotten Chum Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/01/08
Posts: 715
Loc: Snoho County
This is a great post...keep informing people about what you see and we will eventually get somewhere...we need unity and a common ground...keep posting stuff like this please. Inform the people who don't know. Lets get rid of these gd nets!
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#631137 - 10/28/10 06:18 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Rotten Chum]
Driftfishnw Offline
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#631148 - 10/28/10 06:50 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: Driftfishnw]
1975 Offline
Smolt

Registered: 11/23/09
Posts: 97
Loc: Lake Stevens WA
Sad Sad Sad

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#631158 - 10/28/10 07:45 PM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: 1975]
HookedUp Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 09/15/06
Posts: 424
Loc: Low Road
Chum... they get so much [censored], but the existence and life cycle is just as impressive as any other salmon. As sportfish, they fight harder than most other salmonids. Too bad some people have so much disdain for these guys...must be something they picked up along the way in forming their self identity. I remember when I used to judge people based on the popular sentiment, but i outgrew that after High School.

I never went out with fat chicks or drove a pinto so maybe its the same thing. Im wouldnt be sorry to see obesity and cheap cars wiped off the face of the planet..but chum? They arent that bad are they?
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#631236 - 10/29/10 12:24 AM Re: Purse seiners in Elliott Bay--Chums are doomed [Re: HookedUp]
riverdick Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 05/10/09
Posts: 137
Loc: around the next bend
FYI
Drove across Hood Canal bridge today and counted 13 purse sein boats

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