#665254 - 02/23/11 04:18 AM
OK.... this had to suck
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
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I know the guy that runs this boat, but never did hear the story behind these pics. Miraculously, it looks like the boat did OK.
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#665256 - 02/23/11 05:31 AM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Spawner
Registered: 08/30/10
Posts: 658
Loc: Grays Harbor
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Bet it was a shock when it happened. I would not want to be the one to explain that one to my fishing buddies.
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#665257 - 02/23/11 07:34 AM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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The Beav
Registered: 02/22/09
Posts: 2833
Loc: Oregon Central Coast
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Someone's been looking through the Willie photo gallery again...
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#665264 - 02/23/11 10:19 AM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Smolt
Registered: 10/20/10
Posts: 91
Loc: Bellevue, Wa
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What did the trailer hit a large pot hole or something!?! That's, gawd, I can't imagine being the driver....well I can kinda but DAMN that'd get your attention.
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#665266 - 02/23/11 10:36 AM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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River Nutrients
Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 5078
Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
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Speaks well for Willie boats..........couldn't have been going very fast, cause it doesn't look like "the tie downs straples" weren't being used in the back of the boat.......
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#665282 - 02/23/11 11:58 AM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
[Re: Spade]
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Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4996
Loc: in the mass production zone
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What did the trailer hit a large pot hole or something!?! probably dodged a herd of caribou only to slam into moose! moose got up after the jack-knife collision and ran off, i'd say.
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#665285 - 02/23/11 12:10 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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River Nutrients
Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 4022
Loc: Ahhhhh, damn dog!
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Whatever happened that would sure SUCK big time!
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#665324 - 02/23/11 02:26 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 04/20/09
Posts: 1270
Loc: WaRshington
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At least the boat looks Ok! Yikes!
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#665327 - 02/23/11 02:34 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 01/20/02
Posts: 132
Loc: Chehalis Wa
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Tons of rust finally catches up to you eventually. Just glad it wasn't worse than that. Usually its the U- bolts holding the axle to the frame that rust out fast.
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#665330 - 02/23/11 03:13 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 12/24/01
Posts: 1972
Loc: Kingston, WA
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Usually its the U- bolts holding the axle to the frame or "trailer maggots", if your fishing Forks.
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#665343 - 02/23/11 04:12 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Parr
Registered: 06/20/07
Posts: 51
Loc: Tigard, Oregon
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#665470 - 02/23/11 10:15 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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River Nutrients
Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3164
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This can happen to ANY trailer, not just boats. It also can happen to semi trucks. Threaded fasteners are designed and manufactured to be used ONCE. In many application cap screws (bolts) are used again on motors and various frame work. The problem is, that bolts when torqued to the specification of the size and rating of the bolt and the job its intended for, reaches its maximum clamping force. Do that again, will stretch the bolt which distorts the pitch of the threads and causes the clamping force to be reduced, which allows most Hex nuts to back off. Not only that, people who do repairs at home, often end up with the wrong hardware. Capscrews and Hex nuts are rated based on the ID symbols stamped into the part by the MFG. A lot of fasteners are imported and there have been a lot of counterfeit fasteners on the market for years. If you use a typical grade 2 nut or stainless steel nut on a grade 8 or grade 12 bolt, you will not achieve the specified torque rating of the bolt and the nut will be deformed or stripped. Nylocks are common in the hardware stores, but if stripped the plastic collar inside the nut is not enough to keep the nut on. Stainless has the strength of grade 2. Most auto hardware is grade five, but since most fasteners are now metric, the typical ratings are 8.8 = grade 5 and 10.9 = grade 8. Metrics stamp the numbers on the head but the hex nut is literally stamped with what resembles a center punch and a hash mark at least on the american made grade 5 and 8 hex nuts. If you buy a cheap flat washer for a high torque application, the washer will flatten and reduce the torque rating. When in doubt go to tacoma screw or high strength bolt or another commercial fastener retailer. When it comes to UBOLTS you should buy from the manufacture or go to a spring retailer. They sell and make coil and leaf springs. A retailer like 6 robblees is reliable and NAPA but if the counter guy cannot tell you what you are buying, then go somewhere else. http://www.offroaders.com/tech/Bolt-Identification.htmIn a personal experience, I rode with a boat owner and fished the salt. At the launch I noticed his axle had moved from the center position on the leaf spring, on the drivers side. It was old and rusted. He failed to do proper maintenance. We tightened the U bolts at the launch but on the highway, the axle shifted again. That allowed the tire to rub on the fender, which heated the tire. The tire exploded and ALL FIVE lug nuts were stripped off the studs and the tire and rim was gone. We dragged the hub of the axle on the freeway until he stopped the vehicle. Fortunately he had a spare and we robbed a few lug nuts off the other axle so we could get it off the freeway and then dropped the trailer and bought some more lug nuts and U bolts.
Edited by Lead Bouncer (02/23/11 10:38 PM)
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#665477 - 02/23/11 10:26 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 1852
Loc: Kitsap Peninsula
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Note to self: Check nuts.
A friend lost a trailer wheel on I-5 by Smokey Point. The tire bounced across the median into the north bound lane and hit a Neon being test driven. The plastic front end of the Neon did not fare well.
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#665499 - 02/23/11 11:35 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 1760
Loc: common sense ave.
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The problem is, that bolts when torqued to the specification of the size and rating of the bolt and the job its intended for, reaches its maximum clamping force. Do that again, will stretch the bolt which distorts the pitch of the threads and causes the clamping force to be reduced, which allows most Hex nuts to back off.
i kinda agree with you but the first time you use a bolt it stretches and acts as a clamp when at the proper torque but when you use the same bolt again its already stretched and you lose the clamping force.
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#665506 - 02/23/11 11:52 PM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 1760
Loc: common sense ave.
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Most fasteners are not torqued to thier max spec ...
from what ive heard that is changing because it`s cheaper to buy small bolts and use them near the max than use big bolts and not use them near there max specs.
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#665515 - 02/24/11 12:18 AM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
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Three Time Spawner
Registered: 07/01/09
Posts: 1760
Loc: common sense ave.
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Clamp load and torque are not the same ...
no du but they do work together.
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#665540 - 02/24/11 02:17 AM
Re: OK.... this had to suck
[Re: Fast and Furious]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 8060
Loc: Vancouver, WA
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Predictable. Cheapo bolt-together trailer placed in severe service.
Edited by Direct-Drive (02/24/11 02:18 AM)
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