In all of our "compassion" we have twisted, subverted & perverted natural law. The weak and stupid are no longer Culled from existence. Instead we coddle them with handouts & slaps on the hand for miss behavior. There are only a few ways to change people's behavior away from lawlessness. Death, Imprisonment & the application of natural consequences.

All those whom the legal system cannot convince to play nice need to be dealt with differently. What we currently have isn't working. Do I want rampant lawlessness, and vigilante justice doled out to satisfy some blood lust I have? Not at all. I wish the extent of everyone's disagreements ended in some harsh words. Sadly "civilized" society fails to recognise that the rules that government sets forth and corrects most of our behavior does not work on a percentage of those around us. Less than civilized methods will need to be employed. Sadly many do gooder won't see the error of thier bleeding hearts until it has affected them In Some way. If you feel the need to turn the other check and let miscreants abscond with your things that is your right. I however understand that $=hours of my life. When you take my things you are stealing hours of my day. Time from family friends & recreation that will be replaced by more work by me.
Many with big hearts feel death is too harsh a punishment. I don't agree. So what solution do you warm of heart have? A public whipping, caining or general ass whipping at my hand would be an acceptable substitute to me.

Agreed.

There is no longer consequences for bad choices, just look at California. The state house just voted August raghead appreciation month.


http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/08/01/muslim-california-proclaim-august-appreciation-month/

Agreed.



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Disagree.

Death isn't an appropriate punishment for theft.

There are crimes where death is an appropriate penalty, and I support a state's ability to sentence someone to die.

Hard labor for any number of years would be something I could support. I agree with you that theft is much more serious than our criminal justice system currently views it. Hard labor is neither cruel, nor unusual, when it comes to stealing property and time from someone.

I look at it like this - I'd feel bad for killing someone for breaking into my truck - but I'd sleep great if I could bash in their face with the butt of my shotgun, and then have them serve hard labor for 6 months.

Birth Control......

Agree!!

People commit crimes because they don't fear the consequences, they know the criminal justice system will protect them.

I know that sounds crazy but it's true. Same goes with civil law, people screw each other over in business deals because the system protects the bad party.

Crime is like cancer, too big of business to cure.

I know you don't want to hear about Russia but they do some things better than us for instance; if you get pulled over driving with even a smell of alcohol on your breath, you loose your drivers licence for the rest of your life. If you molest someones kid, you disappear, if you screw someone over in a business deal the Mafia beats the crap out of you.

Black lives matter....nuff said.

No kidding, 25 to life would make anyone feel bad.

A public, Malaysian-style ass-ripping caning would be a good deterrent at the wrist slapping level.
Then ramp up from there.

Sort of agree.

I didn't take Dan to be such a bleeding heart liberal. Conceptually I agree that theft doesn't warrant death. However, pragmatically speaking, we have created a system that rewards theft. And some, like meth head tweekers, can't stop stealing no matter what. The pragmatist in me learns from LE and the justice system that 90% of the crime is committed by the same repeat offenders. So when that asshole tweeker breaks into your truck, if we were legally permitted to shoot the bastard dead, he will stop offending. And property crime rates will plummet. I maintain that the justice system went adrift when we stopped hanging horse thieves.

Sentencing a convicted felon to hard labor might sound appealing. But let's bear in mind that it now costs more to imprison one of these low lifes per year than it does to send them to Stanford University. That is an unfair cost burden to society. The only acceptable alternative to shooting the bastard IMO is a sentence wherein the convict earns enough to pay for his own imprisonment.

OK, now my bleeding heart. Anyone can make a mistake. Beat the holy sh!t out of the thief on the first offense. Kill him for the second. Yeah, I could be good with that.

Consequences. The laws of nature are full of 'em.

What could work is giving people convicted a choice, either go to regular jail and serve your full term, or go to a hard labor camp, eat nutriloaf, waive the governments obligation to pay your medical bills and serve a reduced term. Dig holes, fill them in, break big rocks into little rocks 14 hours a day, get the bull whip if you don't work hard enough. Also allow prisoners in the hard labor camp to smoke cigarettes and drink one 16 oz beer per day.

Hard labor has been deemed cruel and unusual punishment.

Imprisonment doesn't work. Never has, never will. It's been said you can't fix stupid....

In my opinion, the only thing that will stop thieves from stealing is killing them. As much as I hate thieves, I don't think death is an appropriate punishment. Cutting off a hand, a la Arab tradition, might be effective, but if hard labor is over the line these days, that might be a non-starter.

Looks like we're stuck with the idiots and crooks for good.

Send the criminals to Australia. Or drop them on a large deserted island. Let them live as our forefathers did. Hard work and sweat equity will be their punishment.

Truck, I would agree. If they're in my house with my kids..

Different fukkin story..

Shitheads breed with other shitheads to create whole generations of shitheads..

Getting them out of the breeding stock wouldn't be a bad idea.

Salmo, they said the same thing about capital punishment, it is not a deterrent.

This will NEVER change.

I can think of at least one person deterred by capital punishment

Nothing is a deterrent to devoted criminals but capital punishment guarantees that it's a cure for recidivism.