http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs&feature=related

Mf

Is this real? That is a little scary to do at this time in history unilaterally isnt it? Never seen this before so if it is not real I do not want to jump to any conclusions.

I dont care if it is or not. What a tool.

Good for him. I hope he wins so dumb crackers piss and moan for 8 years while we regain some respect in the eyes of the world.

Are you calling me a dumb cracker?

Not that I particularly care, just wonder where I stand in the world of politics.

I wouldn't call anyone I haven't met a "dumb cracker."

But if you spew constant veiled racism in your posts, griping about others living off the government teat while you do so yourself, and then run off crying to the Fishing BBS "next door" so you'll fit in better, and be better received by a less erudite group of sub-humanoids...well...if the shirt fits...

Good thing then, cause I dont quite squeeze in with that crowd. If you can consider a government servant one living off the teat then I guess that would be me. Serving 7 years going on 8 I have never really considered myself one to live off the government teat. Earning my paycheck, I would say that I do more than most getting money from said source. But, knowing from past posts, that you are not one to judge too soon, I would say that you would not consider such as a suckler. So I guess we are good then.

That last post was being more fececious than anything. Just my nature I guess.


Politics seem to always unveil the nastier side of folks. Disagreements between views have never raised anything but crude comments back and forth. In the end they just create rifts and enemies. Definitely not the intention. Unfortuntely, not always avoidable.

"Discussing" politics and religion always brings out the best in people and helps bring about understanding and mutual respect.

This is pretty damn true. Although the latter is only true for a very very small group of people. I watched a couple of old boys that had been friends for 26 years absolve a friendship in one sitting because of the last Bush election.

One of Obama's mentors, and... it wasn't that long ago that Uncle Jesse wanted to cut off a little something, something.



Proof that 2 people can have their differences of opinion, and still come together for the sake of "change" for America.

Mf

There seems to be a fair amount of hysteria on the part of many Republicans and conservatives about Obama. I think that's one of the better reasons for voting for him. After 8 years of Bushco, I'm so offended that I may never vote for a Republican even if the party rolled out a worthy candidate (local elections excluded cuz some of the Rs are far and away the best candidates).

I think that the most important piece of evidence that the Repub voters know that they're really gonna take it in the ass this cycle is that they don't even bother trying to defend McSame...they know that his "maverick" status is about as solid as smoke in the breeze, and that there is no way in hell we are going to re-elect Bush for a third term in the form of an old man with questionable ethics suffering from PTSD.

To that end, they keep talking about how bad both candidates are, how there are no choices this time, and about voting for Ron Paul...

When you hear progressives speak, they talk about Obama.

When you hear Obama speak, you hear about what Obama wants to do.

When you hear conservatives speak, they are either talking about Obama or telling you about how bad both the candidates are.

When you hear McSame speak, you hear more about Obama.

That phenomena speaks louder than anything else.

I agree with Steve that there are some local Reps that I'll vote for (already voted for a few by way of my absentee primary ballot sent in last week), but on a federal level I wouldn't vote for one of 'em even if they were running against Genghis Khan...who by any measure is a moderate compared to the knuckleheads running the Republican party.

Fish on...

Todd

Exactly.

Politically, I'm not altogether on the same page as Barack Obama, but if he makes racist fundamentalist wackjobs get sand in their vaginas, I'm all for it. It's usually a barometer for something that benefits the world as a whole when Luddite Taliban-types are opposed to something.
It's for that reason alone that I support gay marriage. If it' wasn't for that, i'd find the idea completely absurd.
However, I did vote for Republican Sam Reed in the primary. He's a nice guy (his locker's next to mine at the gym), and doesn't bow to his party's pressure, even when it meant that sleazeball Rossi didn't get elected and the Top 2 Primary being passed, which is rare for any politician of any stripe.

Yeah, I like Reed and McKenna. On the flip side, I was surprised that Sohn is running for Treasurer. He's the brightest economist around anywhere - should probably be the fed reserve chairman. I figured anyone as smart as him wouldn't be able to tolerate the BS of gov't office.

Are you one of those hate america appologists? During the Reagan years, he was booed by the Europeans over the missles and his stand on the Soviets. And who benefited the most when the wall came down? Europe. Reagan told Europe to reject, letting the Russians control a pipeline and later on, they let the Russians become the defacto supplier on oil and NG. Now, Russia is in control of the energy and they are throwing a fit, over a competing pipeline. Again Reagan was right.

France elected a president who is considered conservative and a person who supports the US unlike the former left wing leaders. That is a defacto approval of conservative values and methods. Regardless of the country, the pendulum swings both ways. Obama is running against Bush, Obama is not going to change anything from the current and customary liberal approach to govt and the rest of the world. He specifically stated that he has a lot of people talking to him and helping him determine or develop his views. If you want the exact language, go back and listen to the interview at the church about what three people would be important advisors to him.
His wife, mother and grandmother? Gee, he left out AMY CARTER. He was not even suppose to include his wife.
When he falls apart, Nancy Pelosi and others will run the country and prop him up as the great puppet. He is an empty suite and i dont think he will win.

Any man, who votes against the rights of an aborted baby to recieive medical attention, is not a man who should run a family, let alone a country. Irie, people like you, did not want the colonies to declare their independence from England. You would rather surrender to our enemies, so they would like us. Pussy.

Oh shoot, sorry Irie, I just realized you were stiring the pot again.

Actually, Conservatives, by definition didn't want to revolt against the throne. Most of them had to flee back to England because their home were burned by drunken mobs. The Revolutionaries were known as "Liberal Terrorists." I should know because my ancestor Jacob Hare of Pennsylvania, had his ears cut off by Revolutionaries for being a patriotic crown subject.

And as war as Reagan being "right"...now that the COLD war's over...There's REAL wars popping up all over and governnments toppling, aren't there? The worlds been destabilized by US, and now we aren't even the #1 factory producer thanks to Conservative moving jobs over seas in order to make a bigger buck and fu*k hard working Americans out of the family wage jobs that they had to form Unions and take up arms to fight for 100 years ago. I guess you just assume that "another day, another dollar" is just a saying and that the weekend is and always has been. Unions dont hire illegals, Businessmen do. Liberals dont close American factories to reopen them in the 3rd world, Businessmen do. What party does business support? The Republican Party.
Oh wait Im just saying that because Im a baby-killing Pinko.
Turn off the TV, Jerk-off. It s making you sound like an A$$hole.

ohhhhhh man, this is gettin good. Remember what I was saying earlier about the politics? I rest my case.

My favorite thing to do when arguing politics is give a Republican* four inches of rope and watch them still be able to wrap it around their own necks...no point is ever made so well as having one make it for you.

Fish on...

Todd

*I say "Republican" rather than "Conservative" because, for one, they aren't anything at all the same anymore, and conservatives are ideologues who, like progressives, are fiercely loyal to their ideals. Republicans don't have any ideals anymore, and vote for purely partisan politics as their ideology.

There was 2 choices, close factories or move them to allow for cheap products the american public demands. Who employees most everyone... Businessmen thats who do. There is a reason most businessmen aren't whiny liberals. If you want a socialist state move to fukin cuba you pinko commie bastard!

Fixed that for you.

Damn commie nazi's. They are the worse than Ninjas.