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#76008 - 02/05/03 10:47 PM Anybody kill deer with a patch and ball?
brassonbrass Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/22/02
Posts: 102
Loc: Poulsbo
I have a .50 caliber muzzleloader, old school style with a 1 in 78 inch twist. Made to shoot round ball only, but very accurate. However, all I hear is that round balls won't do the job and a guy needs a muzzleloader with a faster twist rate so he can throw maxi balls or sabots. Opinions? Experiences?

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#76009 - 02/05/03 11:05 PM Re: Anybody kill deer with a patch and ball?
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy Offline
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Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 888
Loc: Enumclaw
Gee, those settlers were screwed then! laugh

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#76010 - 02/05/03 11:55 PM Re: Anybody kill deer with a patch and ball?
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
Yup, done it.

The benefits.

Faster muzzle velocity = flatter trajectory.

The down side.

Lower projectile weight = lower FPE.
Ability to power through big bones at longer ranges.

If you are reasonable with your choice of shots, there should be no issue using a patched roundball out to 50-75 yards. You might me using a ball in weight up to about what, 170 grains?

I have taken 3 elk and 4 or 5 deer with a ML, getting old so I can't remember for sure. The elk were all taken with conicals, but I did take a deer with a patched roundball once. There was no issue with the hit, lung/heart at about 30 yards.

I have yet to shoot at an animal at a range of greater than 40 yards with a ML. Using a ML is about getting close and making your one shot count. Live by these two rules and you should do just fine. Go get 'em.
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#76011 - 02/06/03 01:19 AM Re: Anybody kill deer with a patch and ball?
josh870 Offline
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Registered: 11/28/00
Posts: 75
Loc: Everett, WA, usa
have killed many deer handliy with a 50 cal round ball. no elk tho. havnt tried yet.
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#76012 - 02/07/03 11:52 PM Re: Anybody kill deer with a patch and ball?
brassonbrass Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/22/02
Posts: 102
Loc: Poulsbo
DO any of you folks find that the round ball does not leave a very good blood trail or that it doesn't put the animal down quickly? Even with close range shots and heart/lung hits? A book I am curently reading suggests that the round ball will not expand much and leaves a small exit wound. Any advice to refute this? How many grains of powder are you guys using. I am getting good groups at 100 yards (not that I'd take a shot that far) with 85 grains of the black stuff. smile Thanks, Brass

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#76013 - 02/08/03 01:34 PM Re: Anybody kill deer with a patch and ball?
FishPirate Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 12/01/00
Posts: 120
Loc: Arlington, Wa
4 elk, 8-9 muleys. 110 gr in .54

I limit my shots to 100 yds with my Great Plains Rifle.

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#76014 - 02/08/03 05:12 PM Re: Anybody kill deer with a patch and ball?
josh870 Offline
Smolt

Registered: 11/28/00
Posts: 75
Loc: Everett, WA, usa
take a hammer and squish a round ball flat. thats how most of mine ended up but then again more went thru and werent found. usually sue about 100 grs of 3f
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