Unless I missed something CM & myself did not advocate ending fisheries as a whole, only mixed stock harvest. That habitat productivity has decreased is a given but with that decline one must reduce harvest to match that productivity stream by stream. That is not possible when you max out harvest when the adults are all mixed up together let alone add in BC & AK. When mixed stock fisheries end, and they will, it is then and only then that watershed by watershed can a true picture of just what is the status of salmonids and what is possible or not possible to accomplish with the concept of recovery. Habitat degradation & harvest are both the key elements of this thing with salmon and it is rather short sited to think they are not connected.