After reading these I must retract my ribbing about Washington fishers; you guys are really good! These are very good tech ideas and hard to pick a winner. However, I pick Howaiian as the winner. Great rigup! Now in case you have a tough time getting the non-expense paid trip with Bob , I will give you the alternate statement prize right now: "Howaiian, you are one heck of a top notch murky water steelheader and one cool dude!", Steve. BTW, your tip is about a tie with the best couple on our BB. ... Thanks much guys. And anyone that hasn't read this yet bring on some more ideas. - RT