Now that last post was more like the real Joe Superfisky that I know. --- Let me tell you guys something I've learned over the last year as a fishing BB moderator, and meeting lots of people. While this is a good forum to communicate thru, it does have it's drawbacks. You don't personally know most of the guys that are posting things on here, so you don't know the true depth of negative comments from any given individual. You also can't see their face or hear their voice inflection. Experts say that 3/4ths of meaningful communication is garnered from facial expression, voice expression, and body language. I think I am a pretty good judge of people's true character once I've been around them in person enough. I have found that some I thought were people I'd like to be friends with going by their BB posting style aren't really someone I would want to be friends with; and visa versa. Initially, Joe was one of these posting type's that could put me off at times. Since I've met him in person and gone to party and fish with him, I see how he really is. NOT as he comes off with his posting style. He just happens to be a very exuberant guy that isn't really aware of how he can come off at times. But he is definitely a good guy. During some of our discussions I was right up front with him concerining that issue. He had a tendancy to spam on about how many fish he catches (he is a good fishermen). He had no idea how he came off to others by doing that. People don't care for that. I thought he might be a little mad a me for bringing it up; but ya know what, he was completely understanding about it, not vindictive one bit, and has toned down coming off like that. This occured directly between us. I've have recently done the same thing with exhuberant Keith (Stlhdr1) publicly in the "Kalama" thread where he went off about how good he is at fishing and how he wanted to have money contests in steelhead fishing; and that he catches hundreds of fish every year and catches them when nobody else can. Keith just wasn't aware of how bad he was coming off to most people by that kind of spamming. I posted my advise to him in that thread, about cutting that back and just get out and fish for the shere enjoyment of it, rather than try to kick everyone's @$$. I have talked to Keith on the phone a few times and he sounds like a better guy than his posts make him sound. And I am a better guy than my condescending opinionated political posts make me sound. There's something for all of us to learn here. ... Let me re-emphasize that Joe (Superfly) is a geniune good guy, and if you got to know him and understood what he's been thru in his life and how he learned to communcate. .... As for his Vision tackle products, you obviouly can do what you want. Let me just say that it would be unfortunate if you wouldn't consider them because of Joe's rant in a political thread. There are a lot of young hard working people trying to make Vision sucessful by producing a good product at a better price. We all 'go off' to varying degrees within political discussions. I know they haven't made me very popular with some people. Perhaps I shouldn't have brought it up again by starting this thread. In fact, it was basically a 'We told you so' post. I wish I hadn't done it now. GWB will soon enough expose his agenda more clearly. I hope his legacy will help the country more than hurt it. I don't want the guy to fall on his face just out of vindictiveness toward his priorities. That's not right. If his regime does more negative than postive than I hope that will be reflected in the Congressional elections in 2 years and the Pres election in 4 years. With that said I hope we can now close this thread and get on to fishing discussions. Thanks. - Steve Hanson (RT)