Cabelas and Orvis had 2 mm waders and I loved them. Wore them year 'round and never experienced too cold of conditions. They quit making them, probably because of the breathable wader takeover. The 2 mm were light enough to allow plenty of movement freedom. Flytech now makes a 1 mm with some new fangled titanium lining to improve strength. I am waiting for the order to arrive. I suppose someday I will resort to breathables and then I'll be wondering how I got along with out them, just like all the other converts to breathables say now.

DaveD