Bob that's all subjective mumbo jumbo. You weren't here in the old days, so how the hell do you know there were plenty of early fish? I have fished the Kispiox and the Thompson and you know what? I've caught more fish here. Wild fish in most B.C. rivers are in poor shape, even though they've had C&R for years. Yeah, 14,000 fish is way more than the escapement goal, but that's what the state guys tell me have spawned in there in recent yers, and I believe them, despite their track record. I'm going to say again, I release almost all the wild fish I catch even where its legal to whack them, as a conscientious decision on what's best for the resource and me at the time. You weren't around, but I fished these rivers in the 70s and early 80s, and I'm going to tell you they're in far better shape now than then. I fully expect you now to load me up now with more condescending comments. But you're not the last word on squat, even though it's your site. Speaking of that, where the hell did spell check go?