Thanks for the info Obsessed. I should have known that it was the Dept. of the Interior (Sec. Order # 3206) and the 'never fished before' guys in top power at the NMFS that were behind the idiom on the OP. Just like they are for the idiom of allowing the Columbia Indian Tribes to net over 10 times the number of springers than the sportfishers get; despite the sportys C&R on non-clipped fish, as opposed to the gillnet killing of all nates swimming into them! That's sure an indefensable way to stick to the Treaty and Federal Court review case mandates to split the fish, deemed harvestable, evenly at 50/50 between the Indians and non-Indians. rolleyes