hey, thanks for all the info stealheader and osprey, some of the info confused me, especially the "oar talk", so you say you got a 9' stealheader? can you stand up with this model and it seems to work fine for ya on rivers ya say but what is the cost and where did ya purchase it, im hopin that bad boy isnt over 750$$, if it is, i may have to go with a slightly less expensive one..see, here is my dilema, i may be moving over to eastern washington this summer, and i wont be needing a stouter cataraft/ pontoon, over there, for there isnt many rivers on that part of the state, but however, i will use my pontoon/cataraft when fishing over in idaho for smallies and for winter run steelies on the clearwater river when i make it down to orofino that is, so should i jus go with the stealheader anyways even tho i will be fishing in lakes more than rivers, or will sumthing else suffice? thanks again for the info, i have been looking thru websites and thru mags tryin to find my perfect fit of a pontoon...thanks..