Keta, you are very wrong about what you just posted here. There were a few racially insensative remarks. But no one said or infered that the Yakamas were a bunch of drunks! Not what-so-ever! I know; because of the criticism I got for not removing some posts I re-read the entire thread 3 or 4 times. Only one post alluded to the possibility of "beverages" being part of the Raindance ceremony; and that one had a jk in it (jk = just kidding -- does anyone have a copy of the original thread which was deleted by the first thread author? = first poster). It's misinformation such as yours that inflames things on public forums. However, the insensativities were wrong and I posted an appology for not removing them. I also started this thread to help avoid such in the future. It has also become an issue oriented thread as well, and I now think both concepts can be discussed together. ... Other people have also misread posts of others and mine; on both BB's. See the next post below. - RT