GREAT story HAWK , i was asked to work at the lyle plant of martin, years ago , but the wages were very low at that time , my son an i hunt chuckers in them hills . fortunatly the snakes are holed up then . we ran into a bull snake last october .i figured if that snake was out there might be some rattlers around but we never saw any , nor do i want to .thats always a worry with the dog flushing birds.