Hey Chum, let me get this straight - you were anchored and fishing the water out from your boat and these guys (or this guide?) boondogged or backtrolled right thru your water while you were trying to fish, so that you had to wait for them to go away? mad The general media and Dept.'s of F&W aren't doing enough to educate fishermen to proper river etiquette! Likely even lacking in enforcable "rules of fishing etiquette" that is overdue? These internet fishing websites are different. There is more than education here about these issues. There is proper blame in some instances. I don't believe in the 'don't squeal' syndrome that's outdated anymore. Let's get after the sh*theads out there. Post their boat numbers and descriptions on here, and give the same to fish and game officers. Enough complaints can put an unscrupulous guide out of biz. And it can put a rep on a regular river abuser to the point of getting enough negative feedback thrown at them from others on the river that it may clean up their act. Get the boat numbers, and take care of biz! ... I also suggest to start carrying a camcorder along to common problem areas. Turn on the cam as an etiquette infraction is about to occur and speak a proper tactful warning not to improperly encroach on your spot (with cam out of view picking up your words of warning). If they disregard your proper action then bring the cam up and film them in the act. This may stop them. If not, then show it to the proper authorities along with the boat numbers. If they threaten you on cam they are cooked. If they try to get you or your camera I would pull a handgun on them and yell a warning with the cam going. You have properly won and shown some @$$holes we aren't going to take it anymore. It's legal in Oregon to carry a concealed firearm while fishing. I don't know about Washington - but they may have also. I feel very uneasy about making such a suggestion, but I have had it with inconsiderate river bandits ruining fishing for others - and if the states don't have the nads to do the right thing about cleaning up this growing problem then maybe the time has arrived to step back a century or so and make the lowlife bandits conform?!? mad Anyone for starting a vigilante river "cleanup" crew? Just curious. That's all.

[ 07-03-2001: Message edited by: RT 1 ]