Hey, hey, hey .... Cowfish and Andy M, go back and re-read my post. I said to use a video cam to film an infraction in process and in the event that brought a physical affront toward him to have a handgun ready and willing to properly defend himself, if they were that stupid and crazy. Wouldn't you bring it out if 4 guys and a dog wrongly came at you when by yourself with nobody around to wittness and help the situation? That's what I described in my post. To read your posts makes it sound as if I said to wear a gun in a holster or use it to begin with - NOT! I get frustrated with misinterpreted or outright misread/misquoted posts. Please people, properly read and understand a post before you directly reply to it. Thanks. - RT