Cowlitzfisherman I agree it sounds like we are in the minority on this one but I believe we are on the right side. For example some of what was said ,not word for word quotes,"this person only gets out once a year the quide needs to get them fish" or "what if they came from Chicago they should get the experience of catching a fish" this is knowingly skirting the law.Moving on, you mention in one of my examples that the regs don't legally support anything about a fish being caught when it's hooked ,but it does, they state in the regs many times that you must quit fishing when your legal limit is retained.I agree we must think for ourselves but I also believe we would be taking alot of that away when we have the Goverment spell everything out for us in black and white.