i know how you feel zozo, last year fishin on the nisqually the indians would run there boats right up the bank and then the next and then go up river throw there net out in front of people who are fishing and then net up all the fish as they floated on down the river.... ethical, i believe not, but then again i will be fishing with a lil heat of my own and if i have a prob i will deal with it,only in self defense ofcourse, i know a few indians from the nezperce tribe who are jus as bad as the ones over here, but they tend to take things beyond, say like shoot 70 sum deer, loads of elk, jus to sell.. **berkley boy**