HEY, MOOCHING MAN I'VE BEEN FLYFISHING FOR SILVERS OFF OF POINT NO POINT FOR FOUR YEARS.WHEN THE FISH ARE IN IT CAN BE GREAT FISHING.I USE A 9 FT. 8 WEIGHT ST.CROIX, MEDIUM TO FAST SINK TIP CORTLIN BRAND.PINK &WHITE OR GREEN & WHITE CLOUSER WITH LEAD EYES.WHITE,GREEN& PINK SHRIMP PATTERNS WORK VERY WELL TO.ONCE & A WHILE YOU CAN GET KINGS.ITS WORTH THE TIME & MONEY.NUTS