Let me get this rod thing straight ... oh, nevermind I did that last night. laugh Hey Troy (spooled), Doug (FH5) is very proud of his bassin skills, don't belittle his pride and joy pic. He usually is catchin only carp! That's right, carp. smile He's got a great 'Big Dawg' doughball recipe for carp bait. Got it from Parker and the Kid when he caught them carpin' - they were so embarrassed they gave Doug several of their doughballs to keep him quiet. He's been carpin' ever since. ... Hey, maybe if you guys dip those balls in some egg nector they would catch some of the Sop's 'noser 'hos?