WOW!
You guys are posting some very god points. I probably fall somewhere in the middle, just like in "reel life" in between the two extreems.

However, what do you think about this. Oregon has a very different management strategy than Washington regarding Razor clams. How is it that every tide is published, every productive clam bed is mapped, some even "drivable" ,no license required, virtually no enforcement, generous bag limits (even for the 4 year old) and we stil have a resource. It seems to me the "fishery" doesn't stand a chance, yet it's still here. Why? I think all the other factors limiting success. Weather, water conditions, water temp., technique, equipment, ethics, and to a lesser extent determination, just to name a few.

This brings me to my next thought.Of all the "secret honey holes", how many are on private property? Those would automatically be excluded from this conversation. That narrows it down to all the public waters. For future management planning, why don't (or wouldn't) we develope a management strategy that would protect the resource in the "inconceivable" event that the "good info" leaked? Get real. If the estimations of fisherpersons and predictions of future fisherpeople are correct, we will be sharing "our" waters with many, many people.

I wouldn't want to see our fishery overmanaged, but we need a new plan. Times have changed, so should the appoach.

BTW, it seems some of us could use a little exposure to other people to build our interpersonal skills. Grouchy, grumpy people often spend too much time alone.

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