I'm done with this thread. My intent was to cause people to think and, largely, I believe that I was successful with those who were able to do such.

Some of the debate was good, some was not. Many things that were said surprised me, but the sources usually did not so go figure. Knowing what I know about some of them makes their comments that much more...interesting.

For those who supported the spirit of the debate, whether you agreed with me or not, thank you. It was good reading.